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[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Are the anti-semites not some of the biggest supporters of Israel, counter intuitively? Take Viktor Orban for example.

Even the early Zionists even had agreements with the Nazi party as early on they had the same goal - to get Jews out of Europe.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

yeah there's a bunch of antisemitic zionism because they want jews out of wherever "here" is and they want to use israel as a model or justification for their own ethnonationalism.

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They also just hate muslims more. But the real kicker is how in their worldview there's good and bad jews. Good jews are genocidal ethnonationalists, implementing policy that the fascists want to implement in their own countries. Bad jews have basic human decency and are to the left of Hitler. Therefore, their antisemitism has a perfect outlet since the idealized other is faraway in Palestine, while the idealized enemy is at home.

Only a minority of fascists feel the need to claim that there's a zionist conspiracy to keep them from being ethnonationalist like Israel. Most of them are content in claiming there's a non-zionist yet jewish conspiracy to do the same.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

It's not counter intuitive, antisemites want a place they can deport all their local Jews too, and then killing a bunch of brown people in the process is just a nice bonus.

[-] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 10 months ago

Israel also hates victims of the Holocaust

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

Ukraine, the great "ally" of Israel.

Unironically, yes.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago
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