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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 103 points 9 months ago

so the rich can have big toys

It should say "so the rich can control literally every aspect of your life"

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

I mean, society is just a toy to them.

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Plus, horde wealth like dragons just for the sake of feeding their addiction to more. I suspect going from having a billion dollars to having 100 million dollars would have a negligible impact on their quality of life or their toys. It's just a few less zeroes on their bank account or stock portfolio, but those zeroes are so goddamn important to them.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

More than dragons. The richest dragon that you can run into in D&D or Pathfinder will be a Chaotic Evil Red Ancient Wyrm. If you got to them before they start eating their hoard, they will have at most 3-5 million gold pieces. Let's go for the high end of that. That's 500,000 oz of gold. That comes out to $1,041,345,000. So even the absolute greediest personification of greed, rarely, if ever, manages to break a billion dollars of wealth, and that takes them 10,000 years to amass.

These assholes are literally greedier than dragons.

[-] III@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

No one is taking their big toy, we are just saying having 100 of that big toy probably isn't necessary.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

Im saying take their big toys. Rich people should not exist. If people want big toys, bring the whole world up to the standard of having them.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/69130e6d-3ac3-4884-8ec0-c6fd54958ce4.jpeg

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago

I eye roll when I see the undecided voters for this election. If you're saying you're still undecided on Trump, you're full of shit

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 8 months ago

Undecided just means ashamed of how they are going to vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shy_Tory_factor

[-] NoMoreLurkingToo@startrek.website 9 points 8 months ago

Aren't centrist voters mainly going to vote for Biden? Aren't leftist voters the ones threatening not to vote Biden because he is too far too the right from their perspective?

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Anyone who won't vote Biden cause he's too far right is a god damn idiot. If you're leftist, why would you want Trump to win? If you want to save Palestine why would you help Biden lose to Trump, who will surely help Netanyahu stomp and toss Palestine into the waste bin of history.

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[-] duffman@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

The leftist position looks more like the centrist pov to me.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago

Only because our nation's Overton window is skewed so hard right that the general populace thinks common centrist concepts from other countries are radical left.

I mean just look at how most of the country thinks of Universal Healthcare which is the default in most developed countries and not even considered that particularly progressive.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Is: The rich should be lined up, stripped naked, and guillotined. Closer?

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

Most of us don't feel that way and would be happy with just reasonable market and industry regulation.

Me personally? Yeah eat the rich.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 8 months ago

I don't think most people seriously have an issue with people making large sums of money. The problem is when they make so much money they essentially control the world and can commit all the crimes they want.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I have no problem with success. I have a problem with success at the expense of others.

Some millionaires are problematic, some aren't.

All billionaires are guilty.

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[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I just need a place to rant...

I hold a few "enlightened centrist" types in high regard, and the opinions I always hear from them are "Yeah, Trump is a lunatic (butsoisbiden™), but the rest of the Republican party is fine." While Trump is openly planning to replace the entire RNC chair with virtually zero pushback.

What the fuck am I missing here?

The example in the meme is rage-baity, but it's not wrong when these people are being willingly ignorant at best.

If anyone thinks Trump doesn't pull some shit in office, and either him or his replacement (due to age/health, not conspiracy) don't try to hold on to power by even less democratic means than we already have... You're not paying attention. The dude has told us this is what he's going to do.

Yeah, the governments got problems... But handing the keys to a man that has proven time and time again that he has no regard for the will of the people... Shit's bad, but I -promise you- it isn't that bad.

As far as the trials being political... Yeah, they are. But the crimes were real. And how can we demand our politicians be bound by the law, but protest the first time one actually gets prosecuted?

This is high profile, and millions are watching. Set the precedent. And -we- have to create a culture of holding them accountable after this.

Genuinely asking though... What am I missing?

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 9 months ago

People who say the rest of the Republicans are fine are also just wilfully ignorant or intentionally misleading. They're the ones who voted Trump in to begin with and he wasn't ever hiding who he truly was so they don't have the excuse that they didn't see this coming.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

It's almost like they're looking in the mirror saying "I, the rest of Republicans, am fine" like they want to sleep at night after sentencing people unlike them to death

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I agree. I watched a Hillary debate for the first time the other night... The signs were there, ffs.

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[-] WatTyler@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

A lot of the lowest-rung, easiest targets for ridicule are those who are very loudly, uncritically on one side of an argument or another. People who are of middling intelligence correctly identify this as an opportunity for themselves to demonstrate that they are very clever and superior by taking the piss out of the silliest of the left and the right. This leads to Enlightened Centrism™.

This works phenomenally well until they meet someone who has genuine convictions based on their own individual morals and rationale and not how they can differentiate themselves from others.

This is my own slightly bitter, slightly drunken, leftist rant. My own bitter POV is that Enlightened Centrism is a shortcut to smug emotional and intellectual superiority for those who can't come up with their own convictions.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

It also reinforces privilege, so it's a double feedback loop

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What the fuck am I missing here?

I keep coming back to 'inability to entertain the hypothetical'.

It seems that many people can not conceive of something that they have not personally experienced. They can not entertain the hypothetical situation of Trump taking over the party simply because it has not happened yet. They can not conceive of a dictatorship simply because it has not happened yet. It's mind boggling to me that people can't entertain the hypothetical, but it's what I keep coming back to.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

I think to be conservative a person can't have sympathy or empathy. Can't picture themselves in the situations of others. They are the center of the universe. Everyone else is just not as good or as smart as they are because they think different thoughts

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Was there ever a time where both sides were basically like that Futurama bit about the 2 cent titanium tax? Cuz ever since I've been able to vote, it's been a pretty clear difference.

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 13 points 9 months ago

The left let's throw more money at the problem.

The right let's take money away from people and then try and bully people out of being the problem.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

I just want to say that I watched John Oliver today talk about those messaging scams that start with, "Hey Elaine, it's Mary. Are we still on for golf?"

And I then found out that Americans have lost around 3 billion dollars to that scam.

My first thought was, "those people shouldn't be allowed to vote."

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I have something to tell you. Everyone is susceptible to scams. We're social creatures, my dude. It's part of the arrangement. Trust, the ability to trust, that's the built-in weakness to that.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

And he said "that's just in the US" because it does happen everywhere. You know? Western Europe where half the population votes for autocrats too?

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