This is insane that it’s even being considered. If they rule presidents have absolute immunity then Joe Biden could just throw Trump in jail and not have to answer for it, which I would not want any president to have the power to do
They're going to stall the decision until after the election in order to torpedo the case against Trump while also denying Biden the power.
Honestly? If they rule Trump has absolute immunity, Biden should just order seal team six to take him out on the spot, since it would be entirely legal. But he most definitely won’t.
uUuUu wE Don’T wANt to Be thE oNes tO CReaTe a baD pReCEdeNt you stupid political fucks he is a racist psychopathic narcissist rapist mobster who doesn’t give a fuck about anything but himself. Dude has openly fucking promised to enact extreme, politically motivated retaliatory prosecution - including flagrant misuse of the DoJ and exploitation of their ongoing corruption of the judicial branch - on anyone who’s wronged him, just to start. And then there’s his plans for education. And immigration. And international policy. And so on.
When someone repeatedly and consistently tells you exactly who they fucking are in horrifying detail, you really should believe them.
Well said. I agree Biden would probably do nothing in that case. I also agree with everything you said. Unfortunately the people we want to rule, who stick to the rule of law and are focused on the betterment of citizens, always lose to the people who step outside the law and try to cling to power. I don’t think those people can be dealt within the confines of the law generally. Unless you mess up so bad you have 91 indictments. Even then it’s not guaranteed
Than and the ensuing civil war is the only way we get out from under the train wreck of the US government.
Biden doesn't have the balls to pull that trigger though. Trump does though.
Regardless of who wins that civil war, China or Russia will control the country afterwards. We, the people, lose regardless.
China is going to own us one way or another in the next two decades anyway.
There is so much wrong with the US government. I don’t even know what a good solution is but I don’t think Trump is it. We probably need a hard progressive like Bernie or Butigeg
My hope is that they are going to say, of course a president isn't a god-emperor - and in doing so put to bed the argument for all cases outstanding.
Right now, there evidently isn't legal precedence that a president does or does not have blanket immunity for all crimes in perpetuity - we all collectively assumed that (along with a suite of other established practices that are not codified in law).
Trump thumbed his orange nose at things previously assumed like, "don't hire your daughter or son-in-law to positions in the Whitehouse" and "Hey, maybe don't hold foreign aid over a nation state in return for real or imaginary dirt on a political opponent".
As sad as it is, we kind of need SCOTUS to make a determination here, as Congress didn't pass laws after January 6th to specifically prohibit that activity.
“Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
This is quite clear. Legal precedence for immunity is denied when you swear an oath to defend the constitution, of which an oath to not do anything insurrection related is apart
2 months.. what the fuck. The fact they did not take it up on the request of jack Smith is nonsense. Then this would have been done with.
But let them rule on the immunity nonsense. Get it over with. And then put him up on trial.
Also state charges should continue!
Why take it then when they can now and help delay everything!
Between this and the even more nonsensical 14^th^ Amendment ruling a few days ago, the Supreme Court has absolutely jettisoned every last single shred of credibility it might have still had. It is now 10000% crystal fucking clear that it is firmly in Trump's pocket, and will do everything in its power to install him as dictator. Game over, we lose.
History is going to record McConnell denying Obama his rightful Supreme Court appointment as the tipping point at which American democracy's downfall was assured.
It’s probably hard to schedule a hearing when you’re busy begging for a reach around from every dipshit failson who inherited a private jet.
It will be interesting to see what kind of train wreck ensues when they rule in favor of presidential immunity. Some bullshit argument like "the president is subject to impeachment and is otherwise immune". End of even the illusion of a functional legal system, return of the god king.
Fun times ahead. /s
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