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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by sonovebitch@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

Yesterday (19/08/2023) everything worked fine. Today (20/08/2023) I can no longer login to Twitch using Firefox. I restarted browser and cleared cache. No change.

EDIT: I tried again after 30min and it works again. I have some privacy-oriented plugins but I don't play with custom useragent.

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 102 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use LibreWolf, which is FF based, and they refuse to let me log in. All it takes is a User Agent spoofer set to Chrome, and it works.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 years ago

#You can edit titles on Lemmy

[-] IAmTheZeke@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago
[-] Corran1138@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Now there's a community I'd follow!

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago
[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 73 points 2 years ago

Hm weird chromium announces update to stop allowing ad blockers and suddenly no one allows FF to work in their website.

[-] kiddblur@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Just chiming in as a software engineer. My product DOES support Firefox, but there are some weird animation quirks that my team has been trying to solve, but with limited bandwidth and a full product backlog, it’s hard to justify spending too much time supporting a browser with such small global utilization. Especially since we’re using third party libraries like angular material, quirks on smaller browsers can be a nightmare to chase down

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 years ago

Oh I fully understand a smaller company having a website that says “some animations may not work with your browser” when it’s obviously easier to just do chromium as that covers almost every browser, but fully disabling the entire website when it works just fine as long as you tell Firefox to say it’s chrome is a different story.

[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

They need that greed

[-] Koen967@feddit.nl 48 points 2 years ago

Someone else had the same problem. Check this thread for suggested solutions. https://lemmy.ml/post/3612554

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[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago

https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/supported-browsers?language=en_US#firefox

Twitch's official stance is to support the latest two versions of Firefox. Are you modifying your browser agent string at all? Or using any plugins that are privacy/ad-blocking related?

Or using any plugins that are privacy/ad-blocking related?

I mean.... Of course.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, that's probably the "problem." At least directly. The real problem is Twitch obviously, but it's not that Firefox isn't supported.

Edit: so I guess it's not so much that it's not infuriating, but I would give up Twitch before Firefox.

Yep, pretty much my exact thoughts.

[-] reddthat@reddthat.com 39 points 2 years ago

It is because you are resisting fingerprinting. You have to allow fingerprinting to watch twitch in a browser now.

Honestly, chatterio & streamlink is a way better combo.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

If you dont mind whitelisting cookies for the twitch domain, you can allow finger printing, log in, choose to stay logged in for 30 days, then disable finger printing again. And then you'll only have to worry about it once a month.

[-] Fish@midwest.social 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: Disable Twitch adblocker.

Step 2: Log in to Twitch.

Step 3: Re-enable Twitch adblocker.

That's what worked for me.

[-] HerrKai@feddit.de 27 points 2 years ago

I have had this exact issue for so long now. What always works for me is a simple reload.

Also unrelated, but still want to say it: Fuck every single browser based on chromium!

[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago

Weird, I'm watching Twitch right now with Firefox.

[-] Wolpertinger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Me, too. I haven't re-authed in a while, though. Do you get the error if you log out and log back in?

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago
[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

It's the deep breath before the plunge.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Btw there's no point in using Privacy Badger if you already have uBlock Origin.

[-] envis10n@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

They don't block the same things every time, so it's perfectly fine to have both.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

What does uBlock not block that isn't in its filters?

[-] envis10n@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

uBlock blocks things solely based on them being in a filter list. Privacy badger blocks form controls and html elements that can allow tracking. Those are different things.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

uBlock Origin does that and way more. That's just wrong lol

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 2 years ago

Your username is the stuff of nightmares

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Does uBO replace/block fb widgets on sites? It was the main reason I kept Privacy Badger alongside it and just didn’t bother removing when uBO just got more advanced.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. I think it's in the annoyance tab in the settings. Go to filters and you can enable it, there's a ton.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Doesn't firefox have an official add-on that's installed by default that does that?

[-] flurry@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The more lines of defense the better

EDIT: to the dumbfucks downvoting this comment I’ll clarify so you can learn something today :

uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger are not the same thing. Privacy badger is focused on blocking trackers but wont block ads.

uBlock origin will try to block trackers based on a list, but it might not be updated or exhaustivew That’s where privacy badger comes handy, it should pick up most of trackers that will go through uBlock origin.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

That's not how this works.

[-] flurry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Ublock origin blacklisted trackers list might not be exhaustive so privacy badger will pick up.

Btw I’d love to have a nice explanation on how it works if you think I’m wrong

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Posted this in another comment, but this is why:

Thanks to disclosures from Google Security Team, we are changing the way Privacy Badger works by default in order to protect you better. Privacy Badger used to learn about trackers as you browsed the Web. Now, we are turning “local learning” off by default, as it may make you more identifiable to websites or other actors.

From now on, Privacy Badger will rely solely on its “Badger Sett” pre-trained list of tracking domains to perform blocking by default. Furthermore, Privacy Badger’s tracker database will be refreshed periodically with the latest pre-trained definitions. This means, moving forward, all Privacy Badgers will default to relying on the same learned list of trackers for blocking.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/privacy-badger-changing-protect-you-better

It's just using filters like uBlock Origin since the training was considered a critical security issue that fundamentally broken. The article is the devs talking about it in more indepth.

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I still use both, and already knew about this change. Is it useless overkill to keep both? Probably. But Privacy Badger also enables the GPC signal to let sites know you want to opt out of data sharing under the CCPA and GDPR. (You can enable GPC in about:config in Firefox, but that's a hassle to do on every device, and extensions can be synced across devices)

I'm sure there's plenty of discussion to be had around the effectiveness of the GPC, but to be it's worth it even if it's just as a stat of users that care about data privacy. There's also always a chance that something makes it to Privacy Badger's Blocklist before uBlock Origin's (although it's probably more likely to be the other way around).

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[-] sadreality@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago
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[-] MohanFromRohan@infosec.pub 13 points 2 years ago

General rule of thumb: If you suddenly encounter issues with your webbrowser, always check with another, clean profile. Preferably without any extensions.

Especially site-specific ones.

Glad you got it working again.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Check your enhanced Tracking protection settings and see if its at strict. Another user had the same problem here: https://lemmy.ml/post/3612554

It works perfectly on my end:

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Must be something local to you or twitch CDN. I just tried on the same version of FF from West Europe and it worked.

Have you by chance changed your useragent?

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

Im on Developer edition and dont appear to be having an issue.

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