@Purzzle i actually dont get the people that say that Loki is bad. like you get to go invisible **and** invincible
Because that's all he can really do. Also, he is hardly invincible, unless we're calling all frames with shields invincible now. There are a ton of frames that can be invisible while also having some actual useful abilities outside of that. Ivara, Ash, Octavia, hells even Wisp are all much better frames with invisibility. Switch Teleport gimmicks are the only thing Loki has going on for him, and that is nowhere near enough to make him good.
@Keegen
8 full seconds that can be refreshed whatever for free counts as "hardly invincible"? Lol ok
Like I am not saying he's top tier or anything but he is definetly not bottom tier.
It's OK, but you still run into the issue of not having anything else going on for you. I think he deserved D tier because the things he can do are not things that are considered useful in the general gameplay of Warframe or are done better by other frames. Inaros is perfectly fine frame for 90% of content but he still deserved D just cause there are other frames that do what he does far better.
Inaros is perfectly fine frame for 90% of content but he still deserved D just cause there are other frames that do what he does far better.
Be just a big slab of hit points?
Yeah. Grendel is Inaros but better in all content where Health tanking matters. And he can switch to shield gating once it doesn't. Plus his abilities give him easy 100% armor strip and scaling damage. The only time where Inaros is objectively better than Grendel is if the mission prevents ability use. Any other time, Grendel is just better than Inaros is.
I... actually agree with most of these! I'm surprised! There are some frames that I would definitely not place as high as they are (Limbo, Vauban, Lavos, Banshee, Nekros, Voruna) but the vast majority are pretty spot on IMO.
Edit: I somehow overlooked Chroma, that boy deserved the D tier for certain, don't know how he snuck into C. Also, Kullervo should arguably be S tier but he is rather new and people might not know how insanely cracked he is so it's forgivable.
Chroma got C because if you stick nourish and combat discipline on him you can very easily maintain all his buffs permamently while also buffing teammates and looking like a guy in a happy dragon fursuit. He essentially becomes a very tanky weapons platform, like Inaros (pre rework) but with a big weapon damage buff.
That just sounds like a worse Revenant/Rhino/Nezha. Chroma's damage buff is also way worse than any other high power strength frame with Roar subsumed because it's additive, not multiplicative modifier to weapon damage sources (not to mention how Roar double dips on all DoTs, which are the meta damage types). I still firmly believe D tier is appropriate for him.
Considering Volt is genuinely meta for pretty much every activity in the game (Eidolons, Profit Taker, E/SO, general mission/relic speed runs, Aya bounty farms, level cap runs in Disruption and Cascade, etc), I'm surprised he didn't get S tier
Sevagoth being B tier is a crime. He is ridiculously fantastic with his latest augment.
Caliban not being at least B tier is a worse crime. He's so ridiculously underrated because of his 1.
low caliban placing didn't surprise, but did disappoint.
IMO Yareli is S-tier. She's an absolute tank if built right and can solo SP, Archon Hunts, and Netracells without much effort. I guess the biggest challenge is mastering k-drive controls and getting a decent secondary to use with her.
Mesa in S? I don't see it.
Yeah imo she and xaku should switch places
I'm surprised not to see Mag on S-Tier. She's an absolute powerhouse.
I can see a lot of these, the S tier in particular feel almost obvious. The frames that are essentially capable of soloing most content, with either extreme damage, high survivability, or a combination of both. I haven't played with other Gauss enough to gauge his strengths, however, so its the odd one out for me.
Mostly I'm wondering about the higher tier picks, maybe because I don't play as often, but I rarely see a lot of those choices in the field, save for Duviri matches. Baruuk, Mag, Protea (people really grind for her???), and Titania are all very rare sights for me, even though I don't think they are particularly bad.
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