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[-] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 7 months ago

I like the idea of this picture, but I think that the problem is that many people level criticisms to communism as a religious-like school of thought, and I think this fuels that narrative, that we are dogmatic and preaching it to others, I don't think that is a good way even for us to see ourselves, as preachers of the truth, we are people who ought to be among the proletariat and offer support so we all collectively rise together, and is only engaged with the people among the people that we cant put our thesis to the test, and improve Marxism, we do not preach we act.

[-] VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This image is only a joke. It is an inside joke among communists.

[-] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Sure I get it but jokes mean stuff and can shape some ways of thinking specially to newer members people still learning, so I like to be on the cautionary side and leave my two cents here.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I love lemmygrad because we have the stupid memes seasoned with straight unfun reasoning.

Just to acknowledge the fun, not removing it, but also highlighting the possible issues.

[-] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

My point precisely, I didn't dislike the intent of the picture, it is fun but I like to temper it with reasonable criticism, all about contradictions

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It doesnt even have to be a joke and we can lean into it completely seriously without having to justify ourselves. I disagree with the premsises comrade bear puts forward. Pasolini managed to straddle this line perfectly well as a communist.

Jesus was a revolutionary, remember; he freed his people from slavery. He didnt implement communism afterwards, of course; but we can see him for the progressive he actually was removed from the mythos of him. Thats Pasolini's point, and I think its a good one to internalize as it allows us to communicate on better ground with less radical religous people.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Eh just lean into it, then. Fascists and liberals will lie about us and delude themselves no matter what. People crave cults, let's give them one.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Using the Judas casting in their communism last supper painting to divine someone's tendency

[-] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

I thought hating Gorby was pretty universal

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

If you're cool.

Certain ultra leftists might put Stalin or Deng there.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

The artist (Liu Chang Chun) has a few of these:

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Who is the guy in the hat to the right of Kim? It looks like he's in all of these but I have no idea who he is.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

I think it's Nicolae Ceaușescu, the leader of the Socialist Republic of Romania

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

We're discussing this same thing over on Hexbear and my contention is that it's actually Tito because he's wearing a Yugoslavian partisan's cap. I'm used to seeing older portraits of Tito but the artwork seems to have a pretty close resemblance to the younger Tito:

[-] VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Does he have an Instagram or a Twitter account or a website or anywhere where I could see more of his art?

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Communism is when no food. Only books

[-] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

What’s with the spooky scary skeleton?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

It's the spectre, it can take some rest and grab some grub at least on the general meeting.

[-] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago
[-] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

If this is based on Michelangelo's one then Gorby is a Judas, right?

[-] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Both Gorby and Trotsky are Judas.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago
[-] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

lol you're right, I won't even edit it

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