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  1. Use distributed, federated services like Lemmy, mastodon etc.
  2. Support the hosts with our own funds.
  3. Moderate our own communities.

The second point is the most important. Reddit happened because they are a corporate entity seeking profit. Let's own our social media platforms by actively contributing funds to them.

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[-] illah@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly never liked Twitter so mastodon was like meh. But as dorky as it sounds Reddit was fun, even went to some of the meetups back in the day when it was smaller, etc. I’m now seeing the light on the federated / dWeb scene more clearly now.

Totally agree we need a new grassroots web. The classic internet is way too centralized now and is about to become a pit of GPT-generated nonsense clogging up search engines. Stoked to jump in and support these new communities!

[-] R00bot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It doesn't seem like an issue yet, but I'm interested to see how the fediverse combats the inevitable GPT spam it'll start receiving as it grows and misinformation/advertising becomes more attractive on these platforms. It's not an easy problem to solve (though handling it better than Elon should be pretty easy lmao).

[-] illah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

True any text based thing is vulnerable I suppose. I suppose the SEO/content farming stuff tho is more what I was referring to. It was already happening with scrapers ripping off real content to get ad impressions or rein affiliate links. thats a big part of why Wikipedia and Reddit got some priority (either algo or humans adding “Reddit” to a search).

But hopefully stuff like the fediverse makes it a bit more grassroots in that a shitposting bot has less of a direct financial incentive in the way the web does.

[-] RomanRoy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Since you mentioned Twitter and GPT, I'm also not very much of a Twitter guy, but I open it sometimes just because.

Jesus Christ, EVERY POST is filled with lots of people just quoting the GPT bots to "answer" for them some ironic shit. People can't even be bothered to even interact with a post of their interest anymore.

[-] GrammarPanda@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

As someone who never got to experience the web as so many remember it (before it became centralized and primarily monetized), I'm quite excited at the prospect of Lemmy and the Fediverse in general. Maybe my generation and those to come can come to know a better internet.

[-] jcb2016@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The real reddit migration has started! the blackout migration was nothing to what's going on right now!

[-] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Is that really true? I navigated to the Reddit page just a minute ago and there is a ton of activity in the subs I was using before I deleted my account. There are new communities on here that were created to mimic subs over there and it's pretty telling: Little to no activity on the communities over here but a lot of activity on the Reddit subs that are being mimicked. I'm asking myself if the people that are leaving Reddit are mostly tech people, that either work in an industry related to technology or are super enthusiastic about tech. My go-to subs were humanities related on Reddit. Those are still super active over there.

[-] DeimosE2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

I support Lemmy but people saying Reddit is dead as of today and everyone is moving over is just way to hopeful or straight up delusional. If Lemmy does take off it will be years before it reaches anywhere near the amount of users Reddit has. Most of the people who said they will leave Reddit also won't commit.

[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 points 1 year ago

As far as I'm concerned Reddit is dead(to me) a bit like a bad breakup. They still exist, I might bump into them every now and then, but I'll neither acknowledge its existence nor be interested in staying any longer than required.

[-] rckclmbr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And all I have to say is.. enjoy it while it lasts. Once all the users come, so do all the trolls

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[-] EmilyInept@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. I’m one of the many who kept using Reddit throughout the blackout, but once third party apps were killed, I would have to go out of my way to download the official Reddit app and relearn all the muscle memory browsing habits anyway, so why even bother? WefWef is great and I kinda despise the shit a Reddit pulled with their abrupt price hike.

My daily browsing on Reddit went from probably 1-2 hours of day to … well it’s not been long enough to tell but so far I’ve only viewed the site once from my laptop. My mobile use is now completely Lemmy.

[-] drivingcrooner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In truth if I’m being honest with myself, most posts, even in my beloved communities, were just turning into 90% bot ads; it’s gotten more and more obvious over time and I was ignoring it for so long but Reddit really is a husk if what it was and kinda has been for awhile. As a 12 year user, it’s hard to leave it behind but I’m slowly learning whatever the fuck all this is. Godspeed to everyone here!

[-] henfredemars@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really, really smart that it looks like Reddit in terms of page layout. It satisfies the brain that likes its patterns and routines. I even put my favorite Lemmy app right where I used to launch from to satisfy the muscle memory. I really hope this sticks.

[-] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Which lemmy app do you use?

[-] henfredemars@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm using Connect for Lemmy. It's not perfect, a few bugs, but it seems to run acceptably well.

[-] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Same here. I lurked during the blackout, participated on reddit once business went back, and now I have yet to open it on my laptop browser

[-] Fezz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ditto, I said at the time, people are lazy including myself and I wasn't going to leave my account for a 2 day protest, spez was right when he said it would blow over. But once RIF stopped working, well guess what I'm also to lazy to download and navigate their shitty app, so here I am wefwef isn't perfect, preferred rif, but at least it's not bloated.

[-] know1@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Same here for the most part. I still browse reddit on my pc occasionally. I used sync for a long time. When they killed 3rd party apps I couldn't bring myself to download the Shit reddit app. Lemmy has replaced reddit on mobile for me. I did 90% of my reddit browsing on mobile, so it's significantly reduced my time there.

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[-] tatertime@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I think there is a lot of hype going on here about migrations tbh. Lemmy is cool and all but reddit is certainly still generating/aggregating way more content and its where most lemmy content is originating at this moment. I think for now the tech folks are here setting up, a few of us are bumbling around discovering this, and everyone else is still on reddit. I am not a very techy person myself and lemmy is a weird system to wrap your mind around coming from reddit and I can see how people may not bother, especially this early. Just choosing an instance and then finding communities is like an absolute mindmelter if you're used to reddit and its' easy to see why people on reddit would not be keen to move away.

[-] xaxl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly there's no reason to not use both if you wish. Just like Lemmy instances, you don't have to choose a single one to base your entire online time around you can have accounts everywhere and enjoy it all.

I will say though there has been a noticeable difference in the discussion quality on Lemmy. I don't get this vibe that everybody is attacking me and looking for opportunities to shit on me when posting on here, which is hella refreshing at least.

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

For me it’s old.reddit on my PC and wefwef.app for mobile.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yeeeh. Reddit is unusable on mobile, and I only use it on my computer to look up old tips for like… dark souls.

Wefwef is stellar.

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[-] Amazed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Same.. I think as the Lemmy apps mature and if Reddit quality decreases, then we could see more of an exodus. My hope is that apps might make it more accessible. It’s the Wild West.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The ratio of users that I remember Redditors often passed around was ten percent of users were active contributors that created new content and were active everywhere in all the subs. Every sub has a core group of people that create most of the content and drive conversations and connections. The rest of the 90 percent are lurking in the background and most just read and watch, several may take part and generally just repeat and repost content that was already created by someone else.

Once enough of those core dedicated Redditors leave, it will severely affect content. But even so, there is so much content on the site already that users can just repost old stuff endlessly and still drive traffic .... hell they could even just get the bots to just regularly bring up old popular content that users would see as new.

If Reddit does change for the worse, it will take time and it won't happen fast .... it will take months but probably a year or two to see any significant change.

[-] jcb2016@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Got it. Yea i think the migration is really for the people that use third-party apps and the people that support them. reddit is fine its just how they act toward people who are litterally moderating and giving to the community by using third-party apps. i modded my sub from rif and apollo early on. We realized that u/spez was in total control and realized we couldn't do anything about it. we tried to protest but of course we are little fish. now we got lemmy and kbin. witch is actually better cause you arne't jus stuck to one platoform. yes people are mimicking reddit cause thats all we know. but give it time and we will stop talking about it. i say about 1 month or so. you will still see the people talk about reddit burning in hell lol and stuff but that's about it. the blackout brought out I think the real techies and then after the api yesterday and today closed the reset that used third-party apps and everyone that dosen't like where reddit is going are coming over now. #fediverse is huge and we didn't know about!

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[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

With the initial blackout, there was at least some vague hope they would listen. But then we got to July 1st with them quadrupling down and here we are.

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[-] desconectado@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Newbie here, how can we support the hosting with our own funds? And how we can be sure it's used as intended?

[-] marsokod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

For lemmy.world, they are using their previous setup used for mastodon.world: https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld

As for how you can be sure, it is hard to tell, it really depends on each instance. Even in the case of lemmy.world, while you have some details on the expenses and revenues, it's not at the level of a company audit. But that was enough for me to donate. At some point there will always be a trust element.

[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m on Lemmy.world and just moved my Mastodon account to Mastodon.world. Both run by Ruud!

So now my Patreon donation goes to the same dev for all my social media needs. Pretty sweet!

https://www.patreon.com/mastodonworld/

[-] Quetzacoatl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

also don't block other instances too much! I mean as long as they are bot servers that threaten the health of the network, then you have to get rid of them of course. but way too many people are getting their panties in a bunch about content they don't like, and immediately resort to the nuclear option of defederation, which is actually hurting the network and effectively splitting the user base. all these things should be blocked on a user level (by blocking specific communities, not whole instances!).

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There are unfortunately not enough people that hold this opinion, too many are trigger happy on defederating from those they don't like.

Like you say, there can be some legitimate reasons, such as bot servers, and I would add if a big company created an instance to take it over and kill the federation.

But too many simply do it because they disagree with what the people in an instance are saying, and that hurts the federated nature of the fediverse.

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[-] darthfabulous42069@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
  1. Discourage people from using karma. You actually can turn off scores in your settings.

  2. If any instance decides to put advertising on itself, leave immediately and get everyone else to do the same.

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