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[-] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago

War economy vs consumer economy. You may need to give up some iphones and other luxury things if you want to hammer those 3.5m shells in that short time frame. 😁

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 12 points 7 months ago

It's not a problem to consume that amount of ammunition, you just need 'a few' barrels and men to operate them but I'm pretty sure they didn't produce 700 000 shells per hour.

But yeah, the manufacturing capabilities of whole Europe is a poor joke right now.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago

What the previous poster was pointing out is that the manufacturing capabilities of Europe would be more than capable of handling this task, if any significant percentage were applied to it. As it is, ammunition for 155mm artillery pieces is not something that there's usually a heck of a lot of demand for, so it makes up a vanishingly small percentage of overall production. And modern factories, because of how things are built now, are much, much harder to just switch over to making a different product. Even if they wanted to, Germany could not easily give over a significant portion of their national manufacturing capacity to shells without it taking years to do so.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You want butter or bullets?

-some German guy

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

What caliber were those shells though? Obviously a 155mm has a lot more boom than most of what would have been fired back then.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Back then 13 cm, 15 cm, 17 cm and 21 cm artillery cannons were in use, so the shells were not necessarily significantly smaller. However, modern artillery shells surely are more complex involving microelectronics or even rocket propulsion and the use of modern explosives makes the 'boom' also bigger.

[-] user134450@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago

In terms of modern shells being more complex in general: yes and no. modern shells pretty much always use some kind of electronic fusing, sometimes multiple kinds of electronic fuses. back then they had bombs, mines and grenades with literal clockwork inside and electronics was still very rare. also fuses and primary charges were not easy to produce reliably.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

And were they guided shells so you only need one or two instead of 20?

[-] IkarusHagen2@feddit.de 14 points 7 months ago

Well, before artillery shells were bombs fired from a big rifle, now they are smart and more complex.

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago
[-] gentooer@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago

They were nice enough to give us enough unexploded ordnance for farmers in West-Vlaanderen to keep digging up more than a century later!

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah but how many of them worked?

this post was submitted on 25 Mar 2024
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