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Lawmakers in Germany call for TikTok ban to be considered (www.euronews.com)
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Some politicians in Germany consider the app "a danger to our democracy," says Roderich Kiesewetter, vice chairman of the Bundestag’s intelligence control committee and member of Germany’s conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU), because it is an "important instrument" in China and Russia’s hybrid warfare.

Jens Zimmerman, a member of Germany’s Social Democratic Party, said that the government should consider at least banning the app on federal devices. This is the case for the EU institutions, for instance.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago

Banning it on federal devices is a no-brainer. Tiktok, Facebook, Twitter etc all require permissions that should NEVER be given on a device used for government work.

Banning it completely, without even CONSIDERING the banning of the much worse threats mentioned above is asinine and probably based in xenophobia or other demagoguery, though.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

If that's a no brainer, it should also be a no brainer to ban them on company devices.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Sure, but that's up to the companies, not the government.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Every company I've worked for has had very strict standards as to what could be installed on their devices.

[-] muelltonne@feddit.de 27 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure that TikTok is already illegal here. There have been several reports that the chinese government has access to the data and that would totally be in violation of GDPR. I'm sure that you can find other violations of existing laws. So if someone wants to ban TikTok, he just has to push the responsible government agencies to do their fucking job.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 6 points 7 months ago

What's also very peculiar is that only Chinese employees of Bytedance are permitted access to the service's underpinnings. They even fly in technicians to Europe and the US to prevent any non-Chinese from seeing how the service functions.

[-] RedPandaRaider@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

If government access to social media data is a breach of GDRP, then every single social media site is operating illegally in the EU.

[-] muelltonne@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

The details are much complexer than "government access to social media", but the same issues are also applying to US social media sites. If you want to know more, google "US EU privacy shield"

[-] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

The problem with applying existing laws is then you're under the regime of rule of law, and TikTok could escape by complying with the law like anybody else.

This is a xenophobic witchhunt, though, and that won't do.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago

Oh look, a variation of the sinophobia talking point that wumaos like to use so much.

There is nothing xenophobic about reining in the CCCP's disinformation, data collection and psyops tool.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ban meta first. Jesus fucking christ, this world is a fucking joke. FACEBOOK LITERALLY INFLUENCED ELECTIONS AND WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

[-] zipfelwurster@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

I have mixed feelings about this.

We as the west point to Russia and China frequently, lamenting the closed-off nature of their Internet.

Now we are publicly pushing towards further fragmentation of the Internet.

I find it hard to see major differences between blocking TikTok here and China blocking Facebook over there. I assume, the process here is a little more publicly discussed whereas in Russia or China, things are quietly blocked by government agencies, but I might even be wrong about that.

[-] ECB@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

Now that the internet (and particularly social media) has become weaponized as a very cost-effective tool for cyber-warfare, it's basically inevitable that the fragmentation will continue to happen.

It's a bit uncomfortable because it goes against the idealism of the early internet which I still cling to, but I just don't see any way that the current situation is sustainable.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Country that delivers 30% of the weapons israel uses to kill Palestinians bans TikTok right after country that delivers 70% of the weapons bans TikTok

Geez wonder what the relation is here.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Is the Europe slowly waking up to the reality, that they granted propaganda machines and intelligence services targeted and unrestricted assess to their citizens?

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