211
Hmm, (hexbear.net)
submitted 8 months ago by RNAi@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 79 points 8 months ago

It's cool that capitalist greed has taken out both unions and the metaphor for unions now.

[-] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's good but it's not as special as it was when it was one of the earliest prestige drama genre. It's still a good watch that should be close to the top of your list.

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

The mediocrity of the prestige drama's that tried to ride the wire's coattails makes it all the more special IMO.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago

It's very good and worth watching. Yes it's about cops and yes there are some "good" cops in the show, but really it's about institutional failure and even the "good" cops are bad by human standards.

McNulty is a great father, great guy, 10/10 decision making across the board. Truly a role model for anyone.

[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago

I loved the show but McNulty was prob my least favorite character. It's like they tried to force him to be likeable too much, and he suffers from early 2000s drama TV tropes a bit too much. He's not the worst TV character I've ever seen or anything, but I did not really want to laugh along with his "crazy lovable guy" cop antics I guess

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 8 months ago

I don't really think you're supposed to find him likeable. He drives drunk, cheats, and harasses everyone around him for no apparent reason.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah he's much more of a "fuckup with some redeeming qualities" character.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah. If anything he's a commentary on self-sabotage. Everything bad that happens to him is his own damn fault.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 31 points 8 months ago
[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

I literally just started watching the Wire a few days ago and got to S2 yesterday. It's good, far from the usual copaganda, although it kinda still does some copaganda tropes, but in a more nuanced and cynical-ish way.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

Season 1 is the most cop POV season, it doesn't go out of it's way to magnify that all the cops are fucks, even the least shitty of them. It's just less obvious for some than others. It's one of those shows where you miss a lot on the first watch. Sometimes it's big and obvious and sometimes it's just laziness and negligence but they're all kinds trash.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I don't know, I'd push back on that a little. While Herc, Carver, and the other ones that Daniels immediately points out as being thumbs are all portrayed as incompetent, negligent, etc. McNulty is portrayed as a POS/egomaniac but "good police" regardless. Then you have to admit the show definitely glorifies Greggs, the only negative bit about her (by season 2) is how she risks herself too much for her partner's liking, which is just heroism propaganda by another name. I know I'm only 1 season in, but as of yet the show goes more in the "cops are a necessary evil that need some reform" direction than something more radical, leaving itself some space to criticize other institutions like the FBI and criminal justice system but not pressing too hard on cops as the footsoldiers of white supremacy and capital. It portrays all of the higher-ups as corrupt self-serving cynics, but that's how small government CHUDS already think things are like in all cities, it's not a radical view at all.

It's still a good show regardless btw (so far), and moralizing via media discourse is insane, obviously there's more value to engaging with media that you disagree with actively and critically rather than mindlessly watching video essays you 100% agree with. Treats delenda est etc etc.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago
[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

This exchange should be framed and shown as an exhibit on Hexbear media criticism in the Museum of Internet Leftism.

[-] atturaya@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I remember a movie thread on here where someone who hadn't even seen the movie was arguing about it with someone who'd seen it

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

There was a thread about the show Barry where a bunch of people who didn't watch it were saying it sucked and people who watched it kept pointing out how grossly they misinterpreted it and the former group got pissy about it.

There was one former user in particular in that thread being weird but I won't say their name cuz they still have Stan's here side-eye-1 side-eye-2

load more comments (5 replies)
[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

I had someone argue with me about Oppose Book Worship despite not having read it

Extremely confusing

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If it makes you feel better, the creator of the show produced another show called “We Own This City” which is based on a police corruption and abuse case. The show is fucking awful in my opinion because it’s just boring and disorienting. But one of the characters it follows is some lawyer or activist (I don’t remember) who gets embroiled in the liberal-activism industrial complex.

At the beginning she’s rather optimistic about reform, but in the last scene she scoffs and dismisses the idea that the police can be reformed after witnessing the corrupt cops get lenient sentences.

The case is particularly funny - not really, but one of the major investigations - is that investigators were finally forming a picture of one of the corrupt cops and they were in the process of detaining or questioning him. In the middle of a routine patrol, he was found dead with a gunshot. Investigators concluded that he shot himself, but the cops insist he was murdered by THUGS! point-and-laugh-2

It’s possible he was killed by his brothers in blue, but it’s funnier to think that he shot himself and everyone is embarrassed so they came up with this heroic story.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

All of these characters have more of an arc over the remainder of the series. Don't fall in love with anyone. They're all pretty awful and nobody beats the system.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

spoilerPryzbylewski and Bubs and Cutty are probably the only people who end the show as better human beings

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Then you have to admit the show definitely glorifies Greggs, the only negative bit about her (by season 2) is how she risks herself too much for her partner's liking, which is just heroism propaganda by another name.

In season one, doesn't she participate in beating someone (a minor?) when they're forced to raid one of the projects. I always thought that moment was to showcase she was just as much cop as the rest.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I think it was Brodie or Wallace who push down the old cop then the whole squad beats up the kid. I feel like it was glossed over somewhat, and she ends the season a hero for taking 2 bullets and not perjuring on Wee-Bey shooting her when Bunk asks her to ID. Anyway, GalaxyBrain is right, I'm literally 1 season in so I can't draw any conclusions lol.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

I dang near watch it 2-3 times a year. If you ever want to see if you can watch it try The Corner first. Its proto "The Wire" and is super short, but is kind of more tragic. It has a lot of the same cast too but in super different roles. The Wire had more budget and clearer vision of story.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

fun fact the actor playing frank was 35

aging like a maryland irishman

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

Frank was Polish. The actor playing him is from California.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago
[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

His last name being "Sobotka" didn't give it away? They might as well named him Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Also he donates the stained glass to a polish church and that sets everything off. Ziggy mentions it constantly as well. It's hard to miss.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Jesus christ

[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

No way I refuse to believe that

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

look that shit up babe

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

He doesn't look old, he just looks bald.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

That dude was BORN looking like that...

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago
[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago

It's such a perfect reference that I'm surprised nobody hit the bridge before now. We went the whole Great Recession without someone doing it?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

Probably had a minor collision or two, but never anything quite so catastrophic

It's pretty much how every piece of major infrastructure works now

Minor patch jobs every five years until it just fails spectacularly

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

We should start a tontine for the golden gate bridge

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago
[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago

For how many times I have seen The Wire, and season 2 in general, I can confirm this is not real.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

God damnit why not it would be so funny

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ylp_albeRY

Quite the difference, I did not recall Frank being particularly introspective.

~~Hopefully invidious bot comes around~~

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago

This was the best season of The Wire

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel like the truss bridge design using rigid steel support structure was a bad one. For such a long span, it seems cable support is the safest because cables allow for some movement and the structure isn't as rigid. If it weren't the ship, an earthquake may have eventually cause the same outcome. That thing fell like a wet noodle upon impact of just one support column, seems like a really bad design. Should have built something like golden gate bridge.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Looks like somebody doesn't...

spoilerTruss the plan. kelly

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago

I feel like the truss bridge design using rigid steel support structure was a bad one.

You can tell that by the way it fell down.

[-] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Most of these extremely long continuous truss bridges were built in the US in the 70s and 80s because they were pretty cheap for such a long bridge. And people have recognized that they are uniquely vulnerable becuase a single point of failure could potentially take down the whole bridge. However a lot of them haven't had any retrofits to mitigate this issue.

[-] Dickey_Butts@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Oh shit lmao

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2024
211 points (100.0% liked)

traingang

22603 readers
135 users here now

Post as many train pictures as possible.

All about urbanism and transportation, including freight transportation.

Home of train gang

:arm-L::train-shining::arm-R:

Talk about supply chain issues here!

List of cool books and videos about urbanism, transit, and other cool things

Titles must be informative. Please do not title your post "lmao" or use the tired "_____ challenge" format.

Archive links for reactionary sites, including the BBC.

LANDLORDS COWER IN FEAR OF MAOTRAIN

"that train pic is too powerful lmao" - u/Cadende

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS