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Good morning lemmites, I just installed nobara on my aging gaming laptop, hoping to get a few more years out of it and potentially hook it up as a capture device for my desktop. Most of the process has been seamless but there are a few outliers. First being that I had an issue getting the version of Steam working off of the software portal, so I installed the flatpak to work around it being hung up on installing directX.

Now, I've managed to get some games working through Proton-Qt but I've noticed that it won't detect what version of Proton I'm using for Mass Effect LE due to me installing it originally on the non-flatpak version of Steam which Proton-QT is still detecting. I uninstalled the old version of steam but am not sure what the appropriate method of cleaning the drive of old content is on Fedora linux or any linux distro, really.

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[-] simple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

In my experience the Flatpack version causes more issues than it fixes. Try installing it through Nobara's package manager instead (I think Nobara uses dnf?)

I don't use Nobara though so someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

[-] Stiltonfondu@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

I second this. On fedora I had a few too many issues with the flatpak and all were solved by switching to the rpm/native version

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I tried installing it through the package manager originally and it wasnt able to get past installing directx.

Funnily enough regardless of what directories it sees, a reinstall of steam allowed protonup-qt to see that ME:LE was using GE-Proton 8-5 and is currently working!

Amazing... I've never had smoothness like this on this machine. I am getting the same performance out of 1440p that I used to get on 1080p, and at 1080p it feels like I'm playing it on my desktop. I never thought it would be usable again, this is crazy. The old girl's 1050 is still chugging along and getting a clean 60fps. If I can get my main games all functional on here I might actually consider changing my desktop over as well.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I tried installing it through the package manager originally and it wasnt able to get past installing directx.

Funnily enough regardless of what directories it sees, a reinstall of steam allowed protonup-qt to see that ME:LE was using GE-Proton 8-5 and is currently working!

Amazing... I've never had smoothness like this on this machine. I am getting the same performance out of 1440p that I used to get on 1080p, and at 1080p it feels like I'm playing it on my desktop. I never thought it would be usable again, this is crazy. The old girl's 1050 is still chugging along and getting a clean 60fps.

[-] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I think you may need to clear out ~/.config/steam or similar to get rid of the initial install. Might just be ~/.steam.

[-] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

You seem to have run in a few issues right off the gate, usually, one would just install steam through the distro's repositories, then let steam itself install whichever proton version they need need and run re game without any problems

You might get more success trying to fix the first installation process of steam failing than messing around with flat-packs and such.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The steam installation process didn't fail, when I attempted to launch a game it would get eternally hung up on the directx script. This persisted across multiple reinstalls of the traditional steam distro in the software. Plus I literally got the advice to try flatpak from a GitHub thread.

Installing it via flatpak was the only way I could get anything to launch.

[-] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have no intention to push you towards another distro since you will get more out of fixing issues on the one you have than just hopping, but what made you get nobara instead of a more tried and trusted distribution like base fedora or arch derivatives ?

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nobara is just fedora with wine and proton dependencies installed and some other software like discord prepackaged, or so I was lead to believe.

What's wrong with it? I chose it over arch because fedora has a longer track record since it's the professional Linux distro. I figured that was a good move.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nobara is just fedora with wine and proton dependencies installed and some other software like discord prepackaged, or so I was lead to believe.

What's wrong with it? I chose it over arch because fedora has a longer track record since it's the professional Linux distro. I figured that was a good move.

[-] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know enough about neither fedora nor Nobara to even have an opinion about It, but I do feel like it is a bit counterintuitive to install a niche distro which added fun stuff to a fairly pro oriented distribution when there are "major" distributions that have been all about fun stuff since long ago like mint/arch and such. But that's just me extrapolating from the time I was using opensuse and was stuggling to find documentation and/or support on my pursuit of fun, which led me back to arch-based stuff, arch being a distro 100% created for people to dick around in rather than work

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Alright, so here's how the story goes.

The last time I tried to get into Linux gaming I intended to use Arch, but had trouble finding an iso file to build a bootable from. I searched for help online and what did the first guy ask me?

"Why would you want to use Arch when Nobara is a "purpose built for gamers" fork of the track record holding fedora distro intended for professional use?"

Keeping in mind that I intend to use the laptop for desktop capture through OBS and possibly light editing through Davinci which I've already got working. Maybe that altered why that particular user suggested the gamified professional distro Nobara instead of Arch, idk.

At the end of the day everyone's got an opinion and a justification for that opinion. I used Nobara because Rufus built the bootable with their iso first time up no fuss. If Arch had been as simple maybe I'd be on that instead.

[-] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Haha, can't blame you one bit, asking for distro advice on a linux forum is like asking about tool brands at a cookout.

though now that you have a distro installed, you'll be able to put linux iso on a usb drive using the "restore disk image" function in gnome-disk, way less finicky than rufus.

[-] hschen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it should be just ~/.local/share/Steam and like 2 or 3 other .steam files left in your homefolder. if that doesnt work you might wanna delete the config files for ProtonQt which if is a flatpak would be in ~/.var/app

[-] INeedMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I looked through the webpage and github repo but still don't understand. What is the purpose of Proton-Qt? Lutris and Steam have their "which version to use" settings. What does this tool add?

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

To my knowledge it's how you install the proton compatibility layer. That doesn't just come with steam, right? You're just telling the game which version to attempt to use, right?

[-] juipeltje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Steam has a list of proton versions to choose from in the compatibility settings of the game. When you select one it downloads it automatically. You should only have to download a proton version manually if you want to use the Glorious Eggroll versions, or if you really need a specific version that steam doesn't list, at least as far as i'm aware.

[-] INeedMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I install the one provided by steam. I guess it should just install the first time you install a game that uses it. And then you will be getting updates via steam too.

I guess, if you are checking out some patches for a game or something like that, then it would be nice to have a simple way to provide your own. But from my experience it's not needed, steam handles proton versions itself

EDIT: proton compatibility layer is something else than just proton?
EDIT2: This is how it looked in the past but AFAIK now you don't even need to enable proton to install proton-only games. Or am I missing something?

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