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US vetoes widely supported resolution backing full UN membership for Palestine (apnews.com)

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[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 132 points 7 months ago

I am somewhat amazed how much influence Israel seems to have over the United States. Even colleges and universities behaving as though they may as well be established in some autocratic, authoritarian state. It's like a signal was sent out all over the US. The same nation that brought the world NSO has people doxxing students for supporting Palestinians. How easy it's become to dehumanize people, women and children, babies even because the religious fervor truly has the right wing zealots believing they are "the chosen people". The dehumanization of Palestinian people is quite disgusting.

Another reminder that religion and politics should never be allowed to mix anywhere.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ita not just the US, all Western countries except Ireland are basically doing whatever Israel wants. Check any larger western newspaper and none are really critical of Israel. Look at Germany for an example of how fucked they are in Europe.

Canada, Australia, Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Estonia, Japan, Austria and Romania All cut UNRWA funding based purely on Israels word with zero evidence.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 97 points 7 months ago

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 85 points 7 months ago

Fuck you, Biden. I’m only voting for you because the alternatives are worse.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 81 points 7 months ago

Dearest Biden,

Please stop trying to get Trump elected.

Pleasant Regards, Everyone who gives a shit about abortion access.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

Only reason Biden is free to support genocide is because his opponent is Trump. It is the current political climate responsible for Israel's blatant disregard to humanity.

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[-] nadram@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Remember, Trump moved the whole US embassy to Jerusalem just to give Palestinians the middle finger. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/ You can be sure that a very high majority of US politicians will take the same pro-Israel stand. The reason is simply campaign funding and lobbying. Look at AIPAC

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

fucking seriously. he won't step aside, and he won't stop holding it over the abyss.

he wants to make it as painful as possible to vote for him, but I just... I know at this point I can't, abd I'm starting to see much less radical people than me make that call.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It terrifies me as a transgender immigrant because I know Trump literally is dying for the chance to genocide me and my friends, but Biden really isn't helping at all. This country is a failure.

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 69 points 7 months ago

Brought to you by decades of Israeli lobbying money mixed with gullible religious morons in the U.S. legislature. Money in politics leads to genocide.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 42 points 7 months ago

In 2023 Israel spent $4 million in lobbying and got $4 billion in aid. We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y'all. No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y’all.

Traditionally, one calls that "forming a party" but unfortunately we live in a two-party system.

It should be noted that the $4B Israel got wasn't just $4B for Israel. It was $4B for purchase of US weapons systems too Israel. And it wasn't just Israel lobbying for this spending. You had a host of MIC lobbyists throwing in their own millions.

It should further be noted that AIPAC isn't just doing a one-time $4M retail purchase of legislation. They've spend decades building up an enormous back bench of former US Congresscritters, allied staffers, political bundlers, event organizers, and religious affiliates. They injected $4M down the funnel in an 11th-hour push for the next traunch of military kick-backs that they've been receiving since the Bush 43 administration.

No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.

Its important to recognize that Israel provides an incredibly vital service to the US military in the form of maintaining control of the Suez Canal. Its not just a 1000:1 ROI. They're holding Egyptian national leadership at gunpoint and we're kicking them over some money to keep the gun loaded.

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[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 63 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Such a great idea to make an international organisation for diplomacy where the nations that are already dominant also have complete power to stop anything they don't like.

Surely this is a credible institution and not just a respectable veil over imperialism.

That's right just sit there and frown at the guy vetoing instead of doing your duty to humanity and punching him in the face.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

You think those countries would have joined without those powers?

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago

"Biden and his administration are doing all they can" my ass!

They're exactly as beholden to the Israeli apartheid state as all the previous ones going back to 1948, if not MORE than many of them.

Just one example of many that the DNC is still stuck in 1992 and almost half as unresponsive to the will of the majority of the people as the literal fascists on the other side of the aisle 🤬

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

They are doing all they can to cover for Israel, while attempting to appear neutral.

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[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 45 points 7 months ago

Someone remind me again why does the US, or any country, have veto power in the UN?

A veto power basically makes the entire institution useless.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 55 points 7 months ago

Because without it there would be no UN, and as useless as you think the current UN is, I promise you no UN is even more useless.

It's bleak but the fact that we can even get everybody in the same room is remarkable. Like it or not, a UN where Monaco and the US (or, Russia, China, etc) have the same power at the table is a UN where the big players reject its authority and form their own clubs.

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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

See league of nations.

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[-] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 7 months ago

U.S. deputy ambassador Robert Wood told the Security Council that the veto “does not reflect opposition to Palestinian statehood but instead is an acknowledgment that it will only come from direct negotiations between the parties.”

Fuck you Robert Wood!

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[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Reminder the US is an imperialist power that is evil.

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago

The vote in the 15-member Security Council was 12 in favor, the United States opposed and two abstentions, from the United Kingdom and Switzerland. U.S. allies France, Japan and South Korea supported the resolution.

Pretty interesting

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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

I posed a question in another thread, but this one seems like it's winning:

Who would represent Palestine if they had been accepted? Who can represent Palestine?

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Well in a 2 state solution, you'd expect the Palestinians to be able to choose.

Unless we don't want a 2 state solution.

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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Taiwan can't get recognized despite its government being a founding member of the UN and folks surprised it's contentious for Palestine to be recognized?

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

This outcome was by no means surprising, especially as it was not Palestine's first application for membership and the US has even vetoed resolutions calling for an immediate ceasefire in the conflict between Israel and Palestine on several occasions. The difference to your comparison, however, is that Israel itself, unlike China, has no right of veto in the UN Security Council.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Of course the UN is a joke anyway, so it’s not like this really matters in any way.

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