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submitted 7 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world

Holy shit, I can't even imagine the amount of mods that will get erased. There were so many fan-mods, maps, minigames, models... Fucking Nintendo...

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[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

every couple months there is a new burning of the library of alexandria

[-] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

I get the sentiment here, but it is absolutely hilarious to compare gmod content to the library of alexandria.

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Also wasn't that library's burning not as bad as everyone says? I thought we had copies of most of the stuff for some reason. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

There was never really "a burning" that destroyed it in one go. Over many years, there were numerous factors that caused many of the works to be lost. Some were lost to smaller fires, some were stolen, some just disintegrated due to age. If no one bothered to copy them by hand to have more than one copy, that was that.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I can hear the klaxxon

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

The library shrank over a long period due to the change in patronage, from rulers friendly to academia to some that had other priorities. The writings were taken to other places that were more interested in them. There was indeed a fire at some point but it only burned part of it and anyway by that time the collection was a fraction of what it used to be.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

All for the profits of a few people.

[-] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 22 points 7 months ago

There is no profit being made by harassing some innocent modders. If anything, projects like these are free advertising for Nintendo.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Won't you think of all that missed revenue because of IP misuse? It's just as clear as with piracy: every unlawful download is 100% a sale the could have gotten, but didn't . It's simple geometry. We don't need proof, because piracy bad. This IP misuse is just opening up the gate to further infringement, thus undermining their core business.

Next up:

Are you allowed to draw Super Mario from memory for your own personal joy? Find out how your own criminal history started all the way back in primary school.

/s

Stop publishing IP if you hate remixes and the global culture engaging with it you egotistical sack of people haters @ Nintendo

[-] Icalasari@fedia.io 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Apparently it's not even Nintendo, but trolls. Just that this is such a Nintendo thing to do that GMod doesn't want to even risk it

EDIT: So the domain is owned by MarkMonitor, a service that monitors for copyright infringement and sends DMCAs. Nintendo HAS used them before. So that clears up any confusion there

[-] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

Where do you get that from?

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They got it from a twitter post that never bothered looking up who owns the domain. The domain is owned by Nintendo of America Inc not some internet troll.

https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

Search for mm-nintendo.com

[-] Icalasari@fedia.io 3 points 7 months ago

Ah, thanks for the correction

[-] Marmanvii@lemmy.one 7 points 7 months ago
[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Do not blindly believe twitter posts.

https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

Search for mm-nintendo.com

Registered to Nintendo of America Inc.

This IS an official nintendo domain.

[-] Marmanvii@lemmy.one 2 points 7 months ago

I know, I just provided the link, thanks for the clarification though

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I wonder if the "it's just trolls, not Nintendo" misinformation is actually disinformation also coming from Nintendo...

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

The domain is owned by nintendo.

Look up mm-nintindo.com on the icann search: https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 41 points 7 months ago

Fyi, you might want to add a notice to your post that lets people know that it appears to be part of an ongoing series of false-dmcas from someone using a fake Nintendo-lookalike domain.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is not true. Look up mm-nintendo.com on icann yourself to see who registered it.

https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

TLDR: Nintendo is the troll here.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Perfect representation of Nintendo.

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

The post says:

No, they still are. FacePunch believes they are real DMCA take downs, so they're still going to take down the workshop addons out of fear.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

One of these days a Corp is going to push hard enough they get their rights stripped away for not meeting the 'to promote the progress of science and useful arts' part of the copyright clause and i'm starting to wonder if the big N is going to be the winner.

[-] MamboGator@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Kinda like when Warner Music Group tried to strong arm the world over "Happy Birthday" but when they were finally challenged on it in court it was ruled that they never actually owned the copyright.

[-] windie@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Copyright and progress of science and arts is an oxymoron in my view.

[-] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 24 points 7 months ago

Ya gotta remember that at its inception, at least in the US, copyright had 2 things going for it:

The duration was limited to 14 years, not the death of the author +95 or fucking whatever it is currently, and that much of that duration would need to get burnt up in duplication and distribution of the work, all of which had significant costs associated with it. Hundred year long guarantees with unlimited instant reproduction of a work and instant mass distribution functionally for free would have been anathema at the time, and this kind of abuse of the system goes directly counter to the original as-written intent.

Too bad those 'originalists' in the courts only use that concept to suppress women and minorities instead of maybe picking up a small W with it here.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Lol, those rules are for you, not for Nintendo.

[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I actually feel like if Nintendo keeps this up, ar some point down the road, a majority of people are just gonna be done with them.

[-] anon232@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This wouldn't even be GMod's responsibility? Valve owns the steam workshop, so anything violating DMCA should go to steam, not GMod. It's not like GMod themselves are hosting the content.

[-] _Sprite@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Gonna fully sweep the workshop based off a claim that 'might' be Nintendo but won't take down servers glorifying one of the worst points in human history

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

History can't sue you into oblivion for copyright infringement.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 19 points 7 months ago

20 years they've had to DMCA this. They should lose the right to do so after that long.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why? It's explicitly unrated online content not covered by any terms.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They are still beholden to copyright, just like you would be if you hosted a rom distribution website

If you are notified then you have to remove the problem content

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

Because it's probably trolls, not Nintendo

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Yeah, time to move away from the workshop.

Can we go back to svn links for mods?

[-] loobkoob@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

I don't think the Steam Workshop is the issue here. I'm glad it exists, and direct downloads or snv links are still a reasonable alternative for mods that can't be hosted on the Workshop for whatever reason.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

True the workshop is pretty dope.

Just centralizing all mods in one spot is a bit iffy for situations like this.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

13 yo me had so much trouble with SVN. Thanks for the flashbacks.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Hope you eventually got the stargate mod working.

[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Is garrysmod.org still a thing?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Apparently not.

[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Good! Nintendo is a tiny indy company, and you shouldn't be mad at them for this. How else will Miyamoto and Sakurai put food on the table? Think of poor Nintendo and all the billions of dollars these gMod creations cost them!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 7 months ago

So many SFM videos that use Link and Mario models straight up ripped from their games will no longer be made. :(

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