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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by bquintb@midwest.social to c/politics@lemmy.world

Meanwhile, in Florida, the GOP is busy banning water breaks for working people

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[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 215 points 6 months ago

Good step, but let's get that down to a 32 hour work week with no reduction in pay.

Most jobs that are OT exempt have been shown to be more productive with a slightly shorter work week.

[-] bquintb@midwest.social 91 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

totally agree. I remember in the '90s, we were told that because of technology, we would have way more leisure time and everyone wouldn't have to work so hard.

The exact opposite happened as productivity skyrockets and wages stagnate. it's time to fix that with a 34 hour work week!

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 30 points 6 months ago

They've been saying that since the 1950s. Thankfully our corporate masters figured out how to fill our lives with toil so we don't have to endure the horror of enjoying them.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

I used to work in construction. When I saw the first new tool demonstration, I thought, "Cool!" After the 50th, I thought "Great. Another thing to make working easier so we can just work more."

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

But on the flip side, new tools are pretty cool.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

I mean, new tools are still probably a good thing if it means less damage to one's body over time.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

You know what else reduces bodily damage?

Being home 😆

But in all seriousness you're right, but that lies right at the heart of the "productivity vs pay" debate. We create all sorts of new tools (coughautomationcough) that increase our productivity, but the only people who reap the benefits of that are the capitalists who now have time to play two rounds of golf on Tuesday instead of one.

We create better tools to enable work to be easier. But now we're expected to produce more instead of have a better work-life balance.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 27 points 6 months ago

We're literally never going to have that utopia as long as we maintain this "ownership class."

We "don't deserve" the fruits of the increased productivity because they came with the technology and machines that the ownership class owns.

"They deserve the profit because they paid for the machines."

We will literally never have that utopia because the workers don't own anything.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

But that’s socialism /s

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

It wasn’t just the 90’s. That’s been happening since the Industrial Revolution.

[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Hell how many stories have there been of people getting fired for automating their job haha.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

But then billionaires wouldn't be so stinking rich if we did.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 97 points 6 months ago

TL:DR; more people are going to get overtime pay.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 6 months ago

Thank you! The goddamned lede was buried.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I always thought the idea of being on a salary was disgustingly abusive/exploitative. I can't believe I have coworkers that defend the idea that they work more hours but don't get paid for it.

Like what??

I do fully expect to see a disgusting reduction in pay coming for those salaried people though. The boss never loses.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I think it’s one of those things, like non-compete agreements that make sense for a small number of people but somehow was allowed to spread to everyone.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 months ago

Suddenly, a large number of people are now classified as part-time workers scheduled for 39.999 hours a week.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Just in time for the supreme court to declare the NLRB unconstitutional

[-] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

From who? Who'd he save it from? Can we get a 32 hour work week? No? Why not?

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Read the article, it’s pretty clear who the author targets as the villain here. I haven’t verified the accuracy of it, but taking them at their word: management and the GOP that let requirements of who is guaranteed OT pay dwindle. This restores what Obama did that was then dismantled by right wing judges and Trump.

I think it has the potential of being a stepping stone, in first restoring who gets OT, to later push hours reduction before OT kicks in.

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