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[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 94 points 6 months ago

Not to make you feel old but these movies are over 10 years old.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 82 points 6 months ago

...but they just came out!

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago
[-] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm definitely over 10 years old

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 67 points 6 months ago

Also, his character in Django Unchained was an inversion of the Magic Negro trope: a very white character who exists solely to develop the main character.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In the second and third acts, yes, but he does have his own thing going on in the first act. He's absolutely an inversion of that trope, but he's also much more fleshed out than some of the characters he's an inversion of.

Which really speaks to how lazy a lot of those writers were when it came time to flesh out their non-white characters.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Was he magic? I don't remember that bit. Or is that also inverted, the non-magic white guy.

[-] mac@infosec.pub 10 points 6 months ago

Not actually magic but the trope is the negro in the past would've been "magic" because they help the main character in some way.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 points 6 months ago

That's a pretty big stretch for his Django character.

His archetype, you will find, is just called a "mentor"

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Like Glinda, the Good Witch

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago

Is he though? Sure, he's great in his roles, but his mannerisms and personality pretty much stay the same regardless of the role. Someone like Gary Oldman, or Ed Norton are far better actors IMO. They disappear into their roles.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

I think these two particular roles had a lot of mannerism overlap. That, and it was the same director in a similarly genred historical fiction revenge thriller. In Alita: Battle Angel and Downsizing, he's playing different roles. Its just a shame the material doesn't hold up to his talent for the roles.

But I'll also note that Gary Oldman, in particular, really goes ham with the physical transformation. From slick terrorist in Air Force One to manic ex-con in Harry Potter to... Jesus Christ look at all those facial prostheses in Darkest Hour, its not just the acting but the degree to which he's willing to physically change himself to fit the part.

Matthew McConaughey and Christian Bale pull this as well, to really intense effect.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Christian Bale is definitely committed to his transformations. A lot of times I still see him in his roles, but he thoroughly sold me on his method acting ability in The Big Short. Holy shit, man! That was like watching a completely different person on the screen.

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 10 points 6 months ago

I saw Christian Bale and transformation and I was convinced you were going to bring up The Machinist, he lost a lot of weight for that role.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah that is one of the examples of him being incredibly committed to his transformations. But I felt that The Big Short really made him stand out as an actor, since the character has such a completely different personality than all of his other characters, and he totally nails it, even with the little quirks.

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[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah Christian Bale in the Machinist is something else.

[-] JayObey711@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Both his most famous roles have a similar way of speaking because the roles are pretty much the same. The efficient and precise German. The genre is also the same. I've seen a german comedy of his where he is completely different.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

What's that one called? I'd like to see it.

[-] JayObey711@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Gott des Gemetzels. It's pretty good, but the type of movie we had to watch in German class.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

I'm only seeing that its original language was English. Did you watch it dubbed in your class?

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[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I think it's more his expressions, like the tiny details that make you feel like he's really the person he's playing on the screen. Regardless of makeup or physical change, this is noticeable in how Tarantino told him to hold back during rehearsals to really bring out his costars' reactions in the final take of various scenes. That has nothing to do with what the character is or what he's wearing or his physical condition.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I didn't even know Gary Oldman was both Sirius Black and Commissioner Gordon until like 5 years after those movies came out.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

Go see his other roles. Zorg, for instance.

[-] dsco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

Jean Baptiste. Emmanuel. Zorg.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

CORBINDALLASMOOLTYPASS!

[-] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I’ll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

How many movies have you seen him in to make a fair comparison?

His best known roles are very similar, true, but there's more to being a great actor than just having a lot of range.

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[-] Gigan@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Both characters were German too

[-] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago
[-] lukewarm_tauntaun@feddit.de 22 points 6 months ago
[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Actually, German-Austrian, as his father is German and his mother is Austrian.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Y'all just said German twice

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 6 months ago

There was someone who just had a birthday who kept saying this too. Wonder what happened with that?

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

His native tongue

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Christoph Waltz kills any role he's in, and the weirder and creepier the better.

There's a Prime series called The Consultant it's so creepy, weird, yet fantastic, and Waltz plays the titular character and when he shows up in the series he cranks the weird up to 11.

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[-] Marduk73@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

he really is. when I see him in a movie i know it's going to be a ride.

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

For me, he's probably #2 on the "can't pull eyes away from screen" list after Daniel Day Lewis (which is basically cheating).

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Daniel Day Lewis can do some compelling drama roles, but he's one of those method actors who lives as the character until the film is complete. It can make for some powerful films, but sometimes it turns out like Jared Leto's Joker. Or Christian Bale's freakout on set, where he said he was deep in character and some set guy walked through and interrupted the scene.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago

Oh, I'm sure he'd be miserable to live with and be around. Probably insufferably pretentious. But he's so good tho.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Criminally underutilized as Blofeld, not once, but twice.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

He represents our world perfectly ... we love anti-racists ... we also love ultra-racists

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

The duality of man

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[-] covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago
[-] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 18 points 6 months ago

Django and... shoot, just search for 'tarantino nazi film'

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 months ago

Inglorious Basterds

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

Blofeld really is a master of disguise

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 months ago

I'll see anything he's in. I don't need to know shit else about it.

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