FAR LEFT IN SOUTH AMERICA : let's do deals with dictators and narco generals.
ALL Leftists according to rightists: "all I want is basic needs met, obviously anyone who doesn't grant a toddler universal basic income, and free on demand sex change surgery and accompanying hormones is obviously a nazi. Also, fuck white people, fuck men, fuck anyone in an incumbent demographic category. Simply by being male and white you should immediately pay reparations for daring to exist. Anyone who even asks about any of these subjects is committing a crime and should never be allowed to speak again. Also it's illegal to not be attracted to fat people"
ALL Rightists according to leftists: "Anyone who I'm too stupid to understand shouldn't exist. There is no middle ground or grey area on anything, it's my way or the highway. All minorities shouldn't exist at all, no one should exist who doesn't conform to my specific set of arbitrary values. Anyone who says otherwise is a communist and hates themselves. Literally everyone must die. The police never make mistakes and any form of authority must be taken as 100% true at face value"
Centrists: "you both seem extremely closed-minded and I'm struggling to come to any conclusion other than being extreme is bad, and that these are complex subjects. I will try to focus on not being extreme."
Yeah anyone can write literally anything you fucking idiots
Edit: how you know you were right - butthurt downvotes without accompanying replies
Good lord... the comments on here proves that lemmy.world is flooded with politically incompetent libs that couldn't tell the difference between left and right if their lives depended on it.
If you believe that there is such a thing as an actual "left" in formal political establishments, this means you.
The left: we're gonna spy on everyone to make sure you're fine and doing well!
The right: dude nobody's looking who cares
Centrists: are either of you sure and aware of your statements?
Also far left: "we're gonna vote a clear centrist into office because surely that will create progress and not backfire"
The left:
The right: we’re gonna do genocide
The right:
Uh, what? Can you provide any evidence of this whatsoever? Like, a shred perhaps?
The left:
You’re racist!
That's not why we are centrists...it might have more to due with our two choices of geriatric patients who are in a steep mental decline.
Nope, you're either with us completely, or you want genocide of everybody. There's no other nuisance here.
Far right: give me absolute power so I can make the country strong!
Far left: give me absolute power so I can make everyone in the country equal!
Centrist: Both of these groups are made up of grifters and the rubes that fall for the scam that is ideology. We know from history the problems with ideologies, and only those ignorant of history (whether deliberately or not) fall for bullshit "ideologies" whether they be "left" or "right".
In fact the "political spectrum" is just a construct that's only useful as a shorthand to quickly distinguish between moderate political parties. The complexities of functioning society can't be reduced to a one dimensional line FFS. People who are tricked into thinking this way are ill-equipped to govern a functioning society. History has shown that the one dimensional political thinkers have failed at governing every time they've been given the opportunity to do so.
When your only idea to solve problems is violence you don't care for having people's needs met, you just want to dominate others and still claim to be the good guy. I see that on the side of "the left" and you can distance yourself from that without becoming right wing or conservative.
I can't tell them apart in the way they both seed discord to keep people united behind them. I can't tell them apart in the way they tear apart families with propaganda. In that sense, I'm a centrist.
You can argue one of them does less material damage all day, but they both rely on each other to exist in their current form. They are both predatory institutions that I will not be a part of.
At this point I'm ok with exterminating the label people. Keep your labels to yourself and try really hard to solve a problem without them.
Is that really 'far' left, though? Far left is, "let a handful of governors control everything, on behalf of communal ownership, and they will make sure everyone's needs are met fairly."
No. Centrists: "We think absolutes turn into fucking problems. We should have a choice and not a choice between two things we ALL don't like."
Centrist here. I don't think the point of horseshoe theory is that the far-left and far-right are the same. The point is simply that they have similarities. Like both wanting to use violence to achieve their aims.
Well, far left is anarchism. I haven't heard how they're going to make my basic needs met. But then I haven't ever heard how they're going to get their basic needs met. Or any needs met, for that matter.
I think it's similar to communism in the sense that they fantasize about perfect citizens who would always think about the group before themselves without any other incitation (such as having to earn money to live).
This forum is exactly like its reddit counterpart: hot garbage
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