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Apple's 'incredibly private' Safari not so private in Europe (www.theregister.com)
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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Apple's grudging accommodation of European antitrust rules by allowing third-party app stores on iPhones has left users of its Safari browser exposed to potential web activity tracking.

EU: demands changes to allow non-verifiable software

Apple: disagrees, but allows it

platform browser less secure

TheRegister: Damned Apple!!

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 109 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Their platform is less secure because apple implemented side loading in a half assed way just so they can say that they comply. Computers and android phones have been doing this since forever without any major issues. I believe if the security of your platform relies on only installing apps from a single "trusted" source (that has an incentive to make money), then it's not secure.

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

well said

[-] skilltheamps@feddit.de 55 points 6 months ago

The problem is not the EU demanding that, it rather is Apples blatant incompetence at implementing it

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

"Apple – which advertises Safari as "incredibly private" – evidently has undermined privacy among European Union Safari users through a marketplace-kit

It's not incompetence, it's maliciousness

[-] tristan@aussie.zone 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here let me fix that for you

EU: demands changes to allow non-verifiable software

Apple: ~~disagrees, but allows it~~ does half assed job to try and make regulations look bad for its users

platform browser less secure

TheRegister: Damned Apple!!

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago

That's not what's said in the article. At all. What so ever.

The problem isn't suddenly allowing third party browsers. It's that Apple's implementation to allow that in Safari sends out info about sites visited with those app stores. It allows snooping of what 3rd party things people use.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

Apple: "SeE WhAt YoU MaDe mE Do!"

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The problem isn’t suddenly allowing third party browsers.

The problem here - the ONLY problem - is using a fucking browser to do everything, instead of... you know, browsing.

An app store app should be installed as an app. It has no business being specially handled by a browser.

That's what you get when you turn browsers into mini operating systems: the thing's attack surface increases by orders of magnitude.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well that's just Apple "innovation". You're clearly not brilliant enough to understand the long term plan of ~~greedy morons~~ Apple.

I'd argue the problem isn't "browsers", but Apple's closed ecosystem clashing with a more secured internet. They do not need to do it this way, which makes it their fault.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

So maybe that's why they didn't want to allow that?

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

No, the problem is with APPLE'S IMPLEMENTATION of HOW Apple allows third party stores through Safari. NOT with third party browsers themselves. Please learn to read.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 months ago

you missed the point of the article, its about apple basically giving users all their location data, and a hi vis jacket when shopping around such that anyone is allowed to access said information on where youve been. its apples fault for taping the website cookies to a unique identifier and allowing any website to access said list.

this has nothing to do with 3rd party apps, but how apple handles other stores in its own browser.

[-] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 20 points 6 months ago

People care about privacy. But they care more about convenience. If the browser is preinstalled on your system and you are not making a deliberate choice to switch, you'll keep using it.
Changing a habit is a difficult task. Usually, people don't like to do it. So they stick with the worse, even though there are such beautiful things like Firefox.

That's what giants like Apple know. They draw people into their own ecosystem in order to groom them into the perfect customer. They start in schools by giving schools special cheap licenses to use Apple products. An investment into future customers, because as we know, customers will gravitate towards stuff they know.

And I wonder how such things can be legal.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 6 months ago

The rest of the industry has figured out how to comply without f# over their users. This one is on Apple, as usual

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