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Stop funding Israel’s genocide seems like an easy sensible option. That’s kinda straightforward
But…. But, we can’t do that!
it’s a antisemitic to not fund genocide! The genocidal maniac said so.
He's in a lose/lose situation now.
He can keep supporting Israel and lose the support of the younger voters he so desperately needs.
OR:
He can reverse course, let Bibi twist in the wind, causing him to lose all support from the pro-Israel lobby, and be met with "yeah, but you didn't do it soon enough" from the younger voters.
Third option is: you're misusing our armaments, and we won't give you more.
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I’m pretty sure the youth is more receptive to not funding genocide with tax dollars than you make it out to seem
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I just want to point out the latter has been a narrative for decades and "younger voters" just keep getting older with it. It's also completely hypothetical because listening to anyone younger than Boomers hasn't been tried.
I'm in my 40s, I vote reliably, I voted for Biden in 2020 to give him a chance. As long as Biden is continuing to ship weapons to Israel I won't be voting for him again.
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We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
Someone tell Biden there is actually a really easy solution.
Stop arms exports to israel.
Jesus tapdancing christ there’s a TRIVIAL fucking solution right the fuck in front of us. Stop giving explodey shit to the people committing genocide, and also stop giving them any diplomatic cover whatsoever.
Local leader who is a Zionist is all out of ideas.
You can demonize the current president over one issue that is overseas, or you can not vote or vote for the other guy who will not accomplish anything but Israel support and worse.
Weigh what has been accomplished vs your issue vs the alternatives and vote accordingly.
You could vote for the guy who thinks WiFi gives you leaky brain and vaccines open portals to hell instead. That'd show everyone!
The most fascinating thing about blue MAGATs is how they keep peddling this narrative that leftists will vote for Trump.
None of the leftist discourse online I have ever seen has embraced this idea. Admittedly I never see lemmygrad posts due to instance.
So in your worst case, a fringe group of like 3000 hardcore Putin supporters will maybe vote Trump for fun. The West has fallen.
Maybe when your only talking point is “it’s just a little genocide”, it’s time to reflect.
I was actually joking about people throwing their vote away on RFK. Because with FPTP our choices are assisting with genocide or committing genocide and the murder of political rivals.
I'm not defending anyone. I think what's happening is fucking reprehensible. The alternative happens to be way fucking worse. And until we can get ranked choice, STAR, or some other voting method that better reflects the will of the people that's how it's going to be. All the name calling and progressive purity tests in the world won't change that.
Our voting method is just one of the many myriad problems with how we elect government officials. Even if that was fixed we'd still be ruled by low-population states, and the president can be elected with 20% of the vote.
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If only we had some clue as to how the other guy would handle the protests.... oh yeah, we kind of do:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op
Trump threatens military force against protesters nationwide
Not only that, he said recently that these protests wouldn't be happening if he was in the White House. His positions on Palestine and left-leaning protests have not exactly been subtle.
So that’s American tax dollars that could go to funding things that actually impact Americans directly.
Maintaining peace in the Middle East is important- and the one of the most egregious arguments before all this happened is to provide leverage to keep Israel…. From doing … this.
The reality is that argument is a lie. The war in gaza has set back the goal of peace in the Middle East by decades. Maybe even centuries, while bringing us inexorably closer to WW3.
If Biden reverse course now… he has a chance. If he stays the angry old Zionist, though… he’s going to lose in November.
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There are easy solutions, just depends on what you're trying to solve for. If the student protests are the problem, do nothing and wait like 2 weeks until exams and the end of the semester and they will peter out on their own.
If he has to solve Israel/Palestine peace...yeah that's famously a sticky wicket and there was never going to be an easy solution.
At this point the bigger issue is that the US seems to support what appears to be an ongoing genocide.
campus protests rule
There's only one moral solution. Support the protesters and stop enabling genocide.
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