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Sorry for the headline. I don't know why they don't just say it's Vivek Ramaswamy.

To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.

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[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago

I see Vivek Ramaswamy is gunning to be the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century. Giving Putin what he wants is like trying to appease Hitler. Putin's expressed ideology is for Russia to conquerer Europe. He is not going to stop with the Donbas region or Ukraine. The best thing for everyone, including the Russian people, is for Russia as we know it to collapse into smaller countries.

This video by Kraut does a good job explaining Putin's ideology.

Not to mention by supporting Ukraine, the US is sending a clear message to China that they will be met with force if they try invade Taiwan. It doesn't benefit anyone other than Russia and China to work with them and give them what they want. Dictatorships are always going to be incentivized to backstab democracies. Democracies are going to champion human rights, where as other dictatorships will look the other way. So no matter how hard you try to separate Russia and China they are always going to be incentivized to work with each other.

And the little cooperation between China and Russia is not worth backstabbing Ukraine over.

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[-] erranto@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

You can't give away what you can't control

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha, he'll get Russia to sever military alliances with China eh? I'm sure they'll kindly pack up their things and leave Ukraine alone, just like they did in 1991. Putin has showed his hand. He's not to be trusted with any diplomatic issue. He will not abide by American rhetoric. Negotiating terms where Ukraine is blocked from joining NATO simply signals to the West's enemies that if you're able to make inroads, we'll make concessions. It's ultimately as weak piss of a foreign policy as it gets.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'd rather kick America out of it's own NATO before blocking Ukraine, jesus crust.

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Given how many jokes I've made about Trump ordering Ukraine to "just surrender" in a second term, I'm not mad, I'm just sad that my low opinion of the world is justified and accurate.

[-] Sused@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago

Paid by russia

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

I'm so glad he feels confident enough to do such a thing.

You would have thought that not been Ukrainian would make him think he has no right to make that decision, fortunately not.

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[-] finkrat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck you Vivek, you fawning douchebag

Is there no remotely sane candidate in the Republican party? It's not even a matter of supporting bad policies anymore, they have literally lost their minds and betray the very values this country is supposed to stand for

[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 12 points 1 year ago

I don't get why he thinks Russia would end a military alliance after being given everything they want without having to end that alliance. And what makes him think other nations won't still back Ukraine? We would just be putting ourselves on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of the war.

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[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He is the ultimate grifter...I wonder what kind of donation that got from the NRA.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

"in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China."

"...You're questioning if is Russia is good on its commitments? Who had every heard of Russia not following through with its promises? What? Budapest memo-what?" -Ramaswamy probably

[-] bookmeat@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

This guy has no idea what geopolitics is and how the East is playing it.

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[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It will never not blow my mind that people alive during the cold War and all that drama are like yeah... liberal Americans are the enemy! We have more on common with Russia so we feel comfortable backing them in anything.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago

My thing have changed since the Cold War.

[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He can't realistically win potus, so he's only running to angle for {ed: Worst. Ever.} Sec of State position in the next GQP admin

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[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

I guess fuck Ukraine's right to self-determination?

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