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World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target (www.theguardian.com)

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Planet is headed for at least 2.5C of heating with disastrous results for humanity, poll of hundreds of scientists finds

Hundreds of the world’s leading climate scientists expect global temperatures to rise to at least 2.5C (4.5F) this century, blasting past internationally agreed targets and causing catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, an exclusive Guardian survey has revealed.

Almost 80% of the respondents, all from the authoritative Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), foresee at least 2.5C of global heating above preindustrial levels, while almost half anticipate at least 3C (5.4F). Only 6% thought the internationally agreed 1.5C (2.7F) limit will be met.

Many of the scientists envisage a “semi-dystopian” future, with famines, conflicts and mass migration, driven by heatwaves, wildfires, floods and storms of an intensity and frequency far beyond those that have already struck.

Numerous experts said they had been left feeling hopeless, infuriated and scared by the failure of governments to act despite the clear scientific evidence provided.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 139 points 2 years ago

My favorite part was when corporations lied their asses off to the entire world for over 50 years while simultaneously telling is this is all our fault but if we recycled and didn't use too much water, gas, or electricity we could undo the harm that we were personally responsible for.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m rather fond of the part where they admitted to those lies, and the US didn’t force them to pay restitutions equal to the cost of mitigating the damage they’ve caused.

[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 2 years ago

The US instead decided to let them keep doing whatever they wanted.

[-] Zombifrog@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

But we fined them $10,000 and wagged our fingers at them, surely they won’t do it again!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In 2068, I'm sure some entrepreneurial politician will run on the "Prosecute the oil companies!" platform, long after a bunch of them have gone bankrupt and all the damage has long since been irreparably done.

Until then, we just need to keep looking for the Least Bad politician (the guy who has one hand out to fossil fuel and another to privatized wind/solar) rather than the guy who insists wind farms spread COVID with 5g, and hope we don't live long enough to reap the whirlwind.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago

Me too, thanks. I love a good gaslighting

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[-] blazera@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago

I dont understand, everyone bought bigger SUV's and it didnt help

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unironically, that’s partly due to our emissions coding system. According to the system, a light truck with more seats gets more emissions allowance, incentivizing auto makers to lean into the larger class. That’s why there are so many extended cab pickups, yet so few two-seaters with an eight foot bed. We all know that six-seater Ram MegaCab or the Escalade that seats eight is often only driving one selfish person to work.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Its entirely due to people buying larger SUV's.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right, and the reason auto manufacturers are creating so many is because we incentivize emissions reduction by class, and light trucks allow for more emissions.

https://www.resources.org/common-resources/how-much-do-regulations-for-fuel-economy-and-emissions-incentivize-the-production-of-larger-vehicles/

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

You can't even get a small car if you wanted one :( Even mini coopers are just coopers now

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

We need to throw away all the old SUVs and buy new SUVs powered by AI and financed with crypto.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

They need to mine bitcoin while idling on our driveway.

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Hmm I think we need even bigger trucks and also more religion and less gay people. That'll fix it.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

We have already gone past that for the last couple of years. It seems like 6% of respondents are very naïve.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Anyone who hasn't had their head up their ass has been aware of this. Life will be extremely shitty by the mid century. If you haven't made the horrible choice to reproduce, be sure that you don't. There will be no future worth living for those born today.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

not sure about no future but certainly a shitier one all around. but yeah I don't know how anyone is not aware that 1.5 is a long past pipe dream at this point.

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[-] mathic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The only chance we have that I see is the rapid development of fusion into a proper, usable power source, the supplantation of effectively all carbon emitting power plants with non-emitting plants (fusion or otherwise), the effectively complete electrification of the global commercial transport system, and a massive scaling of production direct carbon capture, leveraging the various aforementioned non-carbon emitting electricity sources to make it happen.

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Guess who is trying to deep-six EVs?

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

77% of respondents believe global temperatures will reach at least 2.5C above pre-industrial levels, a devastating degree of heating;

almost half – 42% – think it will be more than 3C;

only 6% think the 1.5C limit will be achieved.

This is not how science works.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

an exclusive Guardian survey has revealed.

Nobody claiming this is science.

[-] FortuneMisteller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

famines, conflicts and mass migration

This will happen for sure and the cause is not just climate change. The cause is overpopulation and exhaustion of the Earth resources.

[-] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

which is why we're just gonna retreat into pockets of radicalism where we all kill each other. max profit til then.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

This is no longer a sigpost on the way to oblivion, but a giant neon billboard in our living room. violent explosion shit! The billboard exploded and set our house on fire... Better blame some Arsonists

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