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Correcting libs on CCP vs. CPC
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Thoughts? Is it worthwhile to correct people on this?
It's worthwhile correcting people on it purely because CCP and CPC indicate who is a reasonable human who will talk about the country honestly and take on new information compared to who is currently completely consumed by propaganda.
I correct people on it and if they continue to say CCP I switch to berating them and making the interaction as miserable as possible. If they switch to CPC I know I'm talking to a person that will take on new information I give them.
If they switch to CPC I know I'm talking to a person that will take on new information I give them.
Yeah I think this is the key part. It's nice to look out for when you're talking to someone and you're trying to gauge vibes.
I am ashamed to admit that I find 'CCPC' to be mildly amusing due to how the pronunciation can be interpreted in some languages.
I know exactly what you're talking about L'MAO (
) since in my Bangla it sounds... very smelly.
i tend to take the tack that it's not particularly fruitful to argue about semantics of a foreign name unless you're going to be there or interfacing directly. does the party actually care how nobody yankees refer to them? would you care what order an abbreviation of your org was in cyrillic?
I think since it's so low effort to switch between them that it acts as a good way to see if someone is willing to change their perspective or are stubborn. This is the least material thing though it's just annoying to hear sometimes because chuds over enunciate the first two Cs.
chuds would over enunciate and use CPC like a slur if it became the common parlance, that's just a matter of tone.
i can see both sides of the non chud equation though and i don't think either are worthwhile. yes if someone switches terminology for you it means they're flexible and respectful. but many people, even fellow travellers and comrades can take semantic corrections in a hostile way. focusing on spelling, grammar, naming conventions etc can be seen as ignoring or sidestepping what someone is actually trying to say.
People . . . can take semantic corrections in a hostile way.
took me more than relationship to internalize this, even when you don't mean anything hostile by it.
Good point.
I don’t correct them, but I do inject the correct spelling in my reply.
I work in coffee and frequently have to deal with names that the (very) white people around me can't pronounce and unless they ask, I don't correct them, I just say it correctly myself.
I’ve heard/read that it’s (ccp) technically correct in Chinese and that CPC was adopted to fit communist party naming conventions in the 20th century. I could be full of shit though + I haven’t read any comments here
I suppose if you have the wherewithal to do so, do so.
Frankly its low on my list of concerns so i cant be fucked to do so.
If they insist on saying CCP (only) as the correct form, they should get CBT...
*Communist Party of China
Communist is a slur for Chinese people dummy. Haven't you watched the news?
It's certainly becoming like that again...
*Chinese Party of Communism
Party of Chinese Communists
Now that's somewhere I gotta be.
I think it's only useful as an example (preferably one among many) of how many English-language sources are uninterested in getting even minor details about China right, and/or are showing their bias by their willingness to intentionally take petty cheap shots.
Best quick hit I can think of is:
It's like running across a foreign language source that calls the Democratic Party the Democrat Party. Either they aren't that familiar with the facts or they're cribbing right-wing crank shit.
Was this post inspired by my post on the letters C and P
what about...
...ZGGCD
this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
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