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Imagine this: you’ve “dated” 600 people in San Fransisco without having typed a word to any of them. Instead, a busy little bot has completed the mindless ‘getting-to-know-you’ chatter on your behalf, and has told you which people you should actually get off the couch to meet.

The memes are becoming real. omori-manic

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[-] pooh@hexbear.net 60 points 6 months ago

In 2021, the AI companion app Replika came under scrutiny after authorities in the U.K. saw a 19-year-old man planning to assassinate the Queen after he was encouraged by an AI girlfriend built on the app.

Critical support?

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

plotting to kill a ninety five year old woman strikes me as a waste of time

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago
[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

truss-the-plan mechanical turk "Replika" operation successful

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

True, he could have gone after Charles.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

By spreading rumors about juice curing cancer

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

Jacking off in the corner and staring as my AI concierge gets all the pussy sicko-wistful

[-] djphdk@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

This is just the matching algorithm OK Cupid and older dating sites used to. "The AI went on 600 dates" is just some marketing bullshit. They aren't going to sim anything, just give people the top 3 percentage matches and pretend it's better because the AI did it.

[-] pastalicious@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Yours is the realistic answer but give me the lathe for a second. If they were going to actually simulate dates and have any insinuation of it being meaningful they could probably claim they need access to all of your text messages and chats to teach the AI your voice and personality. It would be an excuse for a phenomenal level of data mining. If it didn’t turn everyone off with its overreach.

[-] drhead@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

they'll probably take information representing some aggregation of interactions for a user and make some scoring model that tries to learn from pairs of user data and outcomes (in terms of whether they successfully dated or whatever you do on these apps). 100% marketing bullshit, doing LLM inference for something like this would have costs spiral out of control FAST. But a scoring model is cheap, they have the data to make one, and it isn't really all that innovative either.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This reminds me of a concept from Eclipse Phase. The normal mode of travel in the solar system is to upload your mind as data and squirt it across space to a receiving ship or station where you're download and either instanced as software or written in to a meat or cybernetic brain. then you do your business, upload as data, and get transmitted home (don't ask about continuity of consciousness it makes people very uncomfortable). If you just need to ask some quick questions or perform very limited functions, especially if you suspect someone could intercept your mind, crack the encryption, and sift through your brain you might send a severely pruned down "fork" of yourself that has been edited to only have specific knowledge and expertise. Depending on how much pruning you do the fork could be a nearly full copy of yourself with a few parts missing or a sub-sentient expert system that can only perform specific tasks. Regardless, the bandwidth costs are cheaper and the risk of being intercepted and wrung out for information is less.

Also, this is how OkCupid used to work, but with buzzwords. OKC just asked you a bunch of quiz questions and their importance to you, then matched you with people with similar values and beliefs. Worked great. No swiping, no AI. It still sucked, but it sucked and order of magnitude less than modern skinner box dating sites.

I miss old OKC. Match turned it into another swiping app.

[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

See the thing about comparing it to a cool thing is that this isn't really like the cool thing at all.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Oh it's horrific in Eclipse Phase. What happens when you turn your mind in to a stream of ones and zeroes while nanites scrub you out of the brain you were in? Is whatever is downloaded at the other end really you? What if your transmission is corrupted in transit? What will be left of you? What if someone intercepts your transmission, instances a copy of you, hacks in to your mind and changes your personality, then sends the modified you to the end destination with no one the wiser? Eclipse Phase is very emphatically a cosmic horror story.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~Altered Carbon has a lot of the same weird issues. although I enjoyed it, it kinda handwaves over them~~

EDIT: I don't remember well enough, I think the problems are fundamental to transfer of consciousness and fwiw you have to make some choices to bridge those contradictions. I'll have to re-read it to articulate it, so I'm striking it.

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

I feel like the addressed it pretty head on. Every copy of you is equally you. That is the materialist explanation we would expect.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

I've only read the first book, I should re-read it but I remember having some problems with the way the backups worked. good story though

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

Barclay was right I ain't getting in that fucking thing

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

It's funny because you linked to the episode which demonstrates very conclusively that being Transported doesn't even break continuity of consciousness as you stay aware through the entire process and even "see" subspace in the limited capacity your energized pattern can perceive things

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah, Star Trek gets real goofy with it. You don't get broken down and re-constructed, you get turned in to, idk, some weird energy being for a bit then turned back to normal matter at your destination.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

I mean yeah, but we only know he was wrong because of omniscient TV plot contrivance

He was right to not trust the soma machine

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

If there's anyone we should take cues from it's the guy who made holograms of his co-workers to act out power fantasies with and presumably fuck sometimes

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

I'm gonna clone your ego into a bunch of catfish and do a roko's basilisk on you.

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Just don't think of your fork's human rights when "pruning" it.

Eclipse Phase is so cool I wish the system was better.

[-] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

zizek thing about how your chatbot will date someone else's chatbot for you and when you want to have sex the bots will have sex for you and you two will just be friends who know nothing about the other or something

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Maybe I should join that new local pickleball club…

[-] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

You should, meeting real humans in real life is much better than apps that are designed to keep you, lonely single and desperate!

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

They keep inventing new means of isolation.

[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

If two dating bots get to third base and there's no one around to hear them, do they make a sound?

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

So the only app I even get matches on consistently is going to put yet more barriers in between me and other people and pretend it's a feature

Not sure why I bother with the apps then

[-] Dyno@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago
[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Lol yep, very close to the Torment Nexus (though in the episode IIRC it's portrayed as a good thing, soooo).

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Enter the breed pod, citizen.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

I'm never using one of these shitty apps.

[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Just saw the other post about OpenAI integrating adverts and imagining the robots spewing ads at each other.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

This is actually how the robots fuck. They climax by giving a clickthrough instead of just an ad impression.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

Hmmh, this is one of the ones I was thinking of to try getting some friends. Kinda got tired of spending the entirety of my 20s in self-imposed isolation because I loathe and am terrified of other human beings

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Ok what other ways do we have to make dating even more miserable and impossible? People sure aren't miserable and lonely enough we need to get out top scientists on this

:(

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago
[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Also is this just not a re-invention of arranged relationships, but done by the "AI algorithm" doing the matchmaking instead of your parents and grandparents? Every "innovation" of capitalism is socially regressive.

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