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[-] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

They are. Solar systems make up galaxies, which make up clusters, which make up super clusters, which make up galaxy filaments the largest known structures in the universe. Each one of these recursions make the one before it seem infinitesimally small.

[-] Vupperware@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So they must all form something… right? What is that something?

[-] Feweroptions@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago
[-] Vupperware@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Okay, so what if galaxies are synonymous to atoms in that they are the building blocks of something greater?

insert something here about protons, neutrons, electrons, quarks etc. being comparable to solar systems and planets.

[-] Feweroptions@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Galaxies form galactic groups and clusters. Clusters can form into super clusters. Beyond that, you're looking at the universe itself as the next large collection of stuff.

[-] WhiteTiger@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Prove me wrong, I dare you!

Well, the thing about atoms is that they arrange themselves in patterns to create those larger building blocks you speak of. Solar systems move much too slowly, so that by the time they would have arranged themselves into anything resembling the patterns exhibited by atoms, the heat death of the universe would have occurred.

The resemblance you see is orbit, but the major issue with uniting the orbit of atoms and the orbit of planets under one theorem is the scale of the forces at work. Gravity is many orders of magnitudes weaker than electromagnetic force holding electrons in place (and it needs to be that much stronger because of how much faster electrons move relative to their size than planets).

But now we're getting into string theory.

[-] Kata1yst@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Great point. We should also add for @Vupperware 's benefit that subatomic orbitals the way they're envisioning them are a lie we tell ourselves because quantum mechanics is too damn weird to think about.

In fact, probably the greatest argument against atoms as smaller scale worlds is the fuckiness (technical term) of quantum mechanics on that scale. "Worlds" existing only as a probabilistic distribution might make existence difficult.

[-] WhiteTiger@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

See I'm the opposite, the fuckiness at that scale is my greatest argument for their possible existence, accepting that their existence would be in a manner completely alien and unintelligible to me. There's SO MUCH fuckiness that anything is possible.

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