Washington State Ban on the Unhoused : politicalmemes

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 76 points 4 months ago

I've never figure out how these people are expected to pull themselves out of their situation. Drug use is merely a symptom, the cause is living conditions and an existence that makes being sober untenable.

"Get a job"? Find a job that will hire anyone on the spot, AND that can pay for an actual place to live.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 4 months ago

My brother said the same thing. "He can go get a job at McDonalds."

Ok, do you think McDs wants to hire someone who hasn't bathed recently? How will he eat after work if he hasn't been panhandling during the day? What happens between now and his first paycheck? What if he doesn't have a bank account when that arrives?

It's as if getting a job doesn't immediately cure your problems. My brother sorta seemed to be persuaded in that he didn't push the idea any further.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sorry that was for the other guy

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[-] huginn@feddit.it 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A significant number of homeless in CA and WA have at least 1 job as far as I know.

Fast food workers make up 6% of the CA homeless population, for example.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

they are expected to not exist because they are an eyesore and reminder of human fragility.

nobody cares about them 'pulling themselves out of their situation'

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[-] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It shows that you have public services that work so well that they are worth using to someone for whom money is no object.

I’ve seen this personally. Locally, the bus system runs so slowly that only the most desperate people take it. I don’t feel safe riding that bus. It took multiple hours to get to work.

Meanwhile, I used to live in a college town where the bus hits the stops every five minutes. Everyone uses the bus because it’s so convenient, and there’s no reason to feel uncomfortable riding one because the people who ride the bus are just regular people.

Why do they ride it? Because the city has functioning public transportation. Build services that are worth using.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Apparently Japan also has a homeless problem, I don’t recall how bad. But they have a culture that shames them so bad that they go to extreme lengths to mask their homelessness.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago

Implemented by folks who surely call themselves good Christians. Boy, Jesus sure would be proud.

If only they cracked down on real estate / investment industry the same way. What a fucked up world.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 4 months ago

It’s funny because I thought that’s the group of people that says you can’t just ban something because people will just do it anyway. But they banned homelessness and pretend the problem is solved.

The irony that they talk so much about their rights while they are obsessed with taking mine away.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 4 months ago

John 11:35

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

I've been saying this forever, homeless folks need to learn how to levitate so they're just in the air. Or will the government ban that, too?

[-] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago

The government will get the FAA involved at that point.

[-] guycls@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

No levitation in public spaces!

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 12 points 4 months ago

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Boy, I bet many people are going to comment on this that either A) don't live in an affected city, or B) didn't bother reading the article and seeing the nuance in the situation.

[-] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago

Having read the article, the post captures the essence quite well. Cities are criminalising homelessness, often illegally.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 14 points 4 months ago

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

I think you are projecting a viewpoint on to my words that I didn't assert. Did I say, or even imply, that I am for or against these bans? I stated I believe that people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.

[-] Dexx1s@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

You are implying that you're for the bans, or at the very least, that they're reasonable because of some nuance. You literally do that again here in this comment:

people that comment on this will probably have less information than necessary to make a reasonable argument.

The default conclusion that most will have is that banning homeless people is a really shitty thing to do. What extra info do we need to reasonably come to the conclusion? Where's the nuance? I even went and read the first half or so and skimmed the rest(because it seemed repetitive and is more lengthy than I wanted to read) but there's nothing there that even attempted to change my mind.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

NIMBY people usually stay quiet, and are commonly the largest group of people with the power to change laws like these.

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