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[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 months ago

I don't have a dog in this fight. I see wrongs being done by both sides in this decades-old war. The self-censorship I am seeing taking place at all kinds of institutions and organizations in the richest democracies is quite alarming. This is the kind of atmosphere people under authoritarian rules live in - speaking as someone who's lived in those types of places. Not a democracy.

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

And comments like this show the damage done by such whitewashed reporting. The most documented genocide in history is happening before our eyes and Canadians "don't have a dog in this fight."

Note that 'authoritarian' tendencies only need to become visible when the people broadly turn against the ruling class. It's like Ford's "any colour you want, as long as it's black." Sounds like freedom until you start demanding a red one.

[-] Killer57@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Exactly this, Canadians have been shown whitewashed news for so long, to the point where we are witnessing the destruction of Gaza but care not to even lift a finger, I'm ashamed to be Canadian.

[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol, "most documented genocide" where the civilian:combatant death ratio is on the low end compared to other wars and the population supposedly being genocided for the last 50-60 years has more than doubled.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Since the start of the Israeli operation, more than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed, including over 15,000 children and 10,000 women. Over 10,000 others are missing and presumed trapped under rubble. Nearly all of the strip's 2.3 million Palestinian population has been forcibly displaced, and a lesser number of Israelis internally displaced. Israel's tightened blockade cut off basic necessities and its attacks on infrastructure have led to a humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip, including a collapse of the healthcare system and an impending famine. By early 2024, Israeli forces had damaged or destroyed more than half of Gaza's houses, at least a third of its tree cover and farmland, most of its schools and universities, hundreds of cultural landmarks, and dozens of cemeteries.

We don’t know how many of the Palestinians killed were part of Hamas.

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

This is like seeing a kid take another kid's pencil and the other kid shoots the thief and you say "both did wrong here." Sure, technically. But one did way more wrong, no?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

And then you remember that the pen was actually the former's and the latter stole it.

[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 months ago

Try millennia-old war, the last 50-60 years is only the most recent flare-up

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

Weird to me that this was published under a pseudonym? Surely they've given enough details to be identifiable to CBC.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

The bigger goal is probably not being publicly recognizable. If they posted it under their real name there'd likely be a wave of letters calling for their firing.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

That's one option. But when I've never heard of 'The Breach' I'd like to be able to look at this persons history to judge if they are as unbiased as they'd like the reader to believe.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Chilling.

But I've watched the narratives that CBC pushes over the years, and the obviousness of much of it has long ago driven me away from lending it any credence. Internationally, the CBC is a joke media outlet and disregarded by virtually everyone. Shit like this is why.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

As a Quebecois it's always crazy to see how different news coverage can be between the CBC and RC...

[-] dlpkl@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Imma need a source for that last part. I've never seen anyone dog ok the CBC, ever. In fact, on Reddit when a CBC article would make it to the front page it would be universally acclaimed for being factual and having an unbiased, effective voice. Most if not all criticism that I've seen of the CBC comes from both extremes of the political spectrum.

[-] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago
[-] eleventy_7@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

thanks for linking this. I have to say though, this response is pretty bad imo. The CBC basically just falls back on saying "it's complicated, uhhhh both sides".

We've received hundreds of public complaints through our ombudsman and standards office about our reporting on this conflict since Oct. 7. About 55 per cent of complainants thought CBC was unfair to Israel, and about 45 per cent thought CBC was unfair to Palestinians.

We have been told that we are not going hard enough at the human catastrophe unfolding in Gaza and beyond. Some fear we are minimizing the destruction of a people and the deaths of thousands of innocent Palestinians trapped within borders they can't leave. They worry we are trying too hard to balance with Israeli perspectives our reporting on a fight in which they see no balance.

even here the author uses minimizing and semi-revisonist language 'thousands' instead of the more accurate 'tens of thousands'.

And we hear from people who feel we are not going hard enough at the disturbing rise in antisemitism (and what they deem is antisemitism disguised as criticism of Israel). They believe our coverage moved on far too quickly from the horrors of Oct. 7, that we give airtime to anti-Israel members of the Jewish community who don't represent the majority, and that there is not enough journalism on Israel's effort to defend itself.

this is being presented as the other side of "valid criticism" from that 55/45 split, but there's obvious problems and clear contradictions here. It's already concerning enough that they are equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism, but the very next sentence wants to take away what scant airtime anti-israel Jewish voices get. Am I to conclude that those perspectives are anti-Semitic too? Ridiculous.

The fact that the CBC is presenting these two sides of complaints as equally valid is all the confirmation the breach article needs, honestly.

[-] 007ace@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

News is supposed to be unbiased. It is supposed to convey the facts. If you want opinion pieces that is something different. The fact that are saying it's close to a 50/50 split on who they are getting complaints about us their way of saying they are trying to be unbiased in their reporting. It's impossible to not present some bias but the Goal is to keep it to a minimum.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago

It's their way of implying they're unbiased, but 50/50 comaints doesn't mean unbiased. In fact it probably means there's a bias, if it's about a specific subject only. The facts only is unbiased, but for many people on many subjects, the facts are upsetting.

For example, climate change is real and has been known about for over a century. Reporting on that would be unbiased, but you'd get a lot more complaints from a certain segment of society than another. Managing to get 50/50 means you biased your report to be in the middle. The middle doesn't mean unbiased.

[-] Smk@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 months ago

This doesn't feel truth to me. The genocide in Gaza is happening but this story feels way too biased. This story is just unbelievable and if it was truth, this person would be able to file a complaint. This feels like propaganda.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Well they lost their job and are bitter so it’s going to be biased

They could have lost it for a myriad of other things but we won’t find out about them

However given that the Federal Cons have called for the abolishment of CBC for being pro-Palestine

I would say there is a strong reason for them keeping their heads down and also that both sides being unhappy with their coverage is a decent spot for them

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