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Has anyone noticed a shift in tone on Ukraine war reporting? I wonder if the West is looking to prime people for a way out. All of a sudden we might find it IS a humanitarian crisis after all.

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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

All of a sudden we might find it IS a humanitarian crisis after all

A humanitarian crisis that will be blamed solely on Russia, while the media will pretend NATO was trying to prevent/mitigate it. Calling it now.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don't even need to call it, western and westoid media are already pushing "Ukrainian genocide" and "mass murders" of civilians by Russians narrative despite UN assess the number of civilian victims on both sides on around 10000 which is remarkably low for that type of conflict lenght and intensity (and even wiki is quoting that). Lemmy and reddit threads about war are full of that shit.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Russia: Going out of their way to consensually and carefully evacuate millions of civilians out of harms way with good accommodations

Western media: KIDNAPPING CHILDREN

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure I've just seen a hexbear doing the same, so fuck me I guess

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, hexbear is left unity so naturally you would get some westolefto centrists there too.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Once upon a time I used to love left unity...now I see it is "left up until Marxism Leninism and AES." Seeing terminally online Western anarchists and Maoists/Hoxists give each other sloppy head makes me want to strangle someone.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I expect rigorously ruthless dunking of said westolefto by 1800hrs

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US is probably looking to pull out, and are preparing their people for it. Biden's reelection probably depends on it.

[-] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

If the war is not resolved by then, or he manages to get out of the conflict without tarnishing public opinion for him, it will be something that will greatly hinder his chances of reelecting.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Presidental reelection in USA being based on peace and not new war would be something not seen often.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They'll still need a new war

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They'll fund and man ECOWAS with whatever's left of their stock to try keep Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, and now Gabon from rippling out through the rest of Africa; because while they're posturing and blowing hot wind at China, everyone knows that we're a paper tiger that's not prepared for a fight with a nation that dwarfs us near three men to one, if the population data I'm remembering is accurate. When presented with two boulders, yankees will always pick the smaller one, then swagger around afterwards like they did something.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

They only know how to fight wars when its against militaries a fraction of the size, technology, ordinance, and support, with a fraction of a fraction of the money. They like to bully the vulnerable, not pick a fair fight. Cowardly as always.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny you mention that, 'cause that's not even the case! tl;dr of the link, that's just ONE accounting of a crooked US war simulation where a lower tech-level OPFOR should've kicked the shit out of Amerikan forces only for the simulation runners to either forbid movements of OPFOR against Amerikan movements, or just unkill or undestroy targets that OPFOR took all of about ten minutes to TPK.

This has happened BEFORE MC'02 and AFTER it. Basically, there's a reason Amerika's gotten its ass repeatedly kicked by rice farmers, shepherds, and poppy pickers.

The red team was ready to begin shooting down the V-22s when Van Riper’s chief of staff received a message from the white cell. Hostile fire against the V-22s or blue’s C-130 troop transport planes was forbidden. The white cell also directed the chief of staff that the red team had to position its air defense assets out in the open so the blue forces could easily destroy them. Even after some were not destroyed, the red team was forbidden to fire upon blue forces as they conducted a live airborne drop. Van Riper asked the white cell if his forces could at least deploy the chemical weapons that he possessed, but he was again denied.

Van Riper was furious. Not only had the white cell’s instructions compromised the integrity of the entire process, but also his own chief of staff — a retired Army colonel — was receiving conflicting orders about how his force should be deployed. When Van Riper went to Kernan to complain, he was told: “You are playing out of character. The OPFOR would never have done what you did.” Van Riper subsequently gathered the red team and told them to follow the chief of staff’s orders. The independence that he believed a red team must be granted to do its job had been corrupted.

[-] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not so much about peace. USians are starting to get real angry that so much money is spent on Ukraine, especially after the debacle of the Maui wildfires.

Trump's promises of peace are tracting for exactly this reason.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah there has been a shift in narrative for sure. The counteroffensive hype is dying down. I think the war is gonna go on for some time though. At least a year.

[-] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

We have always known that the casualty rate has been 5 Ukranians for every 1 Russian.

Fascists, unsurprisingly, are very bad at warfare, specifically preserving lives, even their own. Especially when we are talking about fascists at the mercy of Western media cycles who demand victories for good PR, and thus get costly and yet militarily useless victories such as all the abandoned corn fields they recaptured some months ago at terrible cost of their own life.

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