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Windows 10 is EOL in October 2025 (lemmy.ml)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15988326

Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing LTSC releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.

Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro

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[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 243 points 5 months ago

You can recommend what you like. As soon as Windows 10 can’t play the latest games I’m off to Linux.

Eat my whole ass, Microsoft.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 87 points 5 months ago

Come on over, the water is fine. I switched to Pop_OS a few months back for the gaming rig and Proton+Steam works almost flawlessly. Older titles sometimes have hiccups, but so far ive only been blocked on one title.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

Yep it's pretty easy and my computer runs so much faster than Windows on the same machine.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 18 points 5 months ago

Windows running on a VM under linux runs faster than windows on bare metal ...

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[-] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

I just switched from W10 to Pop_OS and have had lots of trouble. I'm trying to stick with it but from audio glitches to many games not running unless I find a random CLI arg that someone mentioned on Reddit, to my UI freezing, it's not been an easy switch.

[-] Nevoic@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

Any chance you have an nvidia card? Nvidia for a long time has been in a worse spot on Linux than AMD, which interestingly is the inverse of Windows. A lot of AMD users complain of driver issues on Windows and swap to Nvidia as a result, and the exact opposite happens on Linux.

Nvidia is getting much better on Linux though, and Wayland+explicit sync is coming down the pipeline. With NVK in a couple years it's quite possible that nvidia/amd Linux experience will be very similar.

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[-] NRay7882@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

We need a successful replacement to DirectX for this to happen.

Look how desperate they are now for their web browser, imagine when people start abandoning Windows because there are other options that work just as well. I can't wait.

[-] impure9435@kbin.run 49 points 5 months ago

We need a successful replacement to DirectX for this to happen.

Vulkan?

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[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I haven't touched my Windows PC since the steam deck came out. If you only care about games you don't need Windows.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 84 points 5 months ago

This one is particularly harsh since win11 has ridiculous artificial hard stops on installation based on made up hardware requirements. Also it sucks.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 5 months ago

This also makes it easy to block Win 10 from upgrading to 11, just disable tpm in BIOS. From where I'm sitting, that's kinda convenient.

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[-] codenamekino@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago

Lemmy probably isn't the target audience for this, here's the steps to bypass the MS account requirement when setting up W11:

Configure your keyboard, but before you select your wifi network press Shift+(Fn)+F10 to open Command Prompt.
Type in the following command and press enter. Your computer will reboot: oobe\bypassnro
After the reboot, configure your keyboard and location settings, and click the option at the bottom of the page to say that you don't want to connect to the internet
Click the link on the next page to "Continue with limited setup", then follow the prompts to enter a username and password.

[-] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 5 months ago

If you use rufus to make a windows usb you can select to not require Microsoft account and bypass tpm right in the program, just get a windows 11 iso off the site instead of media creation tool

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago

Thank you. Now that I've showed you my appreciation, are you fucking kidding me?

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Lemmy is exactly the audience for this, thanks!

It just seems like there are are more Linux users because they're constantly bleating about it in smug, self-congratulary comments

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[-] Toes@ani.social 57 points 5 months ago

I really want to see the EU force Microsoft to release a stripped down version that continues to support older hardware.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

Why? Only hardcore computer nerds would ever want that.

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 months ago

Because a bunch of government and business uses 10 and they really don't want "Recall AI" in there for a plethora of reasons.

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[-] Toes@ani.social 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A devastating amount of computer hardware is about to be e-wasted because they decided to drop support for anything older than roughly 2017/2018.

It's an arbitrary limitation as people have succeeded in forcing it to work on much older hardware that still works well enough for your avg person.

Additionally, windows used to be a tool now it's a platform for them to essentially market any number of things and user privacy appears to be the least important thing on the table.

The only reason we don't see mass adoption of Linux has been 4 decades of software development and marketing that let's them continue to wear their crown.

A regulatory party needs to humble them and return windows to being a tool.

Imagine if the gasoline companies one day announced that they will be changing gas so only cars bought in the last 5 years or so could refuel.

Now imagine if to buy a car you had to tolerate cameras and other forms of tracking your telemetry just to get to work and feed yourself.

Lunacy yes? They took the "my" out of my computer.

[-] Pyrarrows@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Fun fact, there were still computers being manufactured with CPUs that don't support Windows 11 in 2020, got one of those at work that we will need to replace before then. Thankfully only one, so it's not too big of a deal.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 50 points 5 months ago

Yeah it's nice to know I have to build a new machine next year whether I want to or not. I've been coasting on a desktop PC I built circa 2015 because the thing works still. Problem is it doesn't meet the hardware reqs (TPM 2.0) to upgrade to Win 11.

Whether I build a machine in 2025 or not I think I will be making the switch to daily driving Linux. I am sick of the amount of time the end user has to spend debloating Windows and blocking its telemetry.

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

So September 2025ish is when I need to decide which Linux distro to go with.

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[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

I installed Linux Mint for the first time the other day and I’m thoroughly enjoying myself.

Thanks M$ for getting me to enjoy my pc again, as a Linux.

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[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago

Well this will be the month where I install PopOS

[-] EndHD@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

I'd recommend doing a dual boot sooner and slowly shifting your files & apps. It took me about 3 months to find a distro and desktop environment i like, get my apps or alternatives installed, and get used to it.

If you wait until EOL, you may be overwhelmed and frustrated, increasing the likelihood of calling quits and accepting Windows 11.

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[-] sunbunman@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

As a long time Windows user, my SSD just shat itself last week. MS has been pissing me off with the constant "upgrade to Windows 11" messages that I've finally taken steps to change over to Linux. My experience has been as follows:

Ubuntu has been hot garbage, half the things I've tried don't seem to work, and Gnome is hot garbage for a newcomer (this might just be an Ubuntu issue)
My current distro, Debian with Cinnamon, is pretty good. I don't want the cutting edge of OS, I just want something that works and won't bug me for major updates every other month.
There is a learning curve. No matter what anyone tells you, you will need to at least be able to google and copy and paste some terminal commands in Linux. Anything more is a bonus.
Linux can have a really pretty GUI after popping in a few changes to the default setup.
Gaming has actually been pretty smooth. 0 issues Lutrix running games from GoG and Steam is not bad even those without Linux support 👍🏾

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[-] dont_lemmee_down@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

I have been running Linux for some time now, still had a Windows partition for gaming. Then I switched the motherboard and windows decided I no longer had a key for it... I stopped playing most of the windows exclusive games. Since last week I can't even boot anymore, something about missing drivers. Spent a day trying to fix it. Today I decided fuck it and I'm just leaving it behind! It makes no sense wasting so much energy on a vastly inferior OS that actively tries to fight me.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 18 points 5 months ago

Then I switched the motherboard and windows decided I no longer had a key for it

The reason for this is that Windows builds an identifier based on the hardware of the machine on which it is installed. When that identifier doesn't match, it throws a flag that says "Hey now ..." I think that you still get a couple of "honor system passes" before the installed OS enforces anything.

Once that gets enforced, you can call Microsoft Clearinghouse, "I upgraded my hardware," and they'll give you a new key to enter.

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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

What a coincidence. I had to install a W11 machine for a relative. The amount of backward decision in the first 20 minutes of checking the settings is mind boggling. Really? Can't open the start menu on "all apps"? Not even an option?

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I got a new machine and put windows on it and the amount of registry tweaks to get it even close to my windows 10 is ridiculous. Significantly more than what I had to do to 10 to make it a bit more like 7 back in the day. (I know i know get linux, but you can't play Dragon Ball FighterZ online with linux and that's the game I play the most)

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[-] slimarev92@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ten years of support is not that bad actually. Having said that, Linux is better in almost every way.

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[-] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago

Yeah... I'm not gonna worry about it until maybe September next year.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

At this point, I can use Linux for most things except older fangames, reliable printing (seriously, cups is pain), and some mmorpgs.

Once I get a month without the university shitting its pants and changing policy overnight, I'll eat the learning curve and switch (actually learn to troubleshoot wine rather than relying on searches).

When I move, thinking mint with cinnamon because I love that desktop.

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[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Fu win11 with its abundance of spyware and ai bs

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

It will be interesting to see how this impacts the market share lol.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Probably not much, sadly.

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[-] edboythinks@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I've got money on Microsoft putting a dead man switch in the last win10 update

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

But I don't want to buy all new hardware! Thought MS was sustainable. Instead MS is BS.

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[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Excited to see the increase in Linux desktop usage.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Linux Mint FTW! Changed partly because of this and partly because of all the ads, bloatware, spyware etc etc

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