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EU ministers fume as ‘outrageous’ Hungary yet again blocks military aid for Ukraine (www.politico.eu)

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A large number of EU resolutions on Ukraine are being blocked by Hungary, said Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis.

Hungary is digging in and refusing to wave through billions in military aid for Ukraine, prompting growing dismay among other EU countries.

"I have to calm myself [when] I talk about this issue, because it’s getting really ridiculous now,” a senior EU diplomat said of the standoff with Hungary, speaking before Monday's meeting of EU foreign ministers. “What’s happening is outrageous.”

Diplomats had hoped to have a new €6.6 billion package ready ahead of this week's meetings of foreign and defense ministers in Brussels. The deal included €860 million for arms procurement, reported by POLITICO last week.

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[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 158 points 5 months ago

It is time to develop a way to remove nations who clearly don’t have the EU’s best interest at heart. Hungary is long overdue to be bounced from the EU.

[-] Oneser@lemm.ee 98 points 5 months ago

While I understand the sentiment, such action doesn't match the long term goals of the bloc to unify the continent. Another solution needs to be found to ensure single bad actors cannot hold up actions which severely impact the remaining stakeholders - I have no idea how it could be done though.

Xoxo, Another useless armchair observer

[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago

I think that is a fair point. One possible option would be to withhold any financial assistance to Hungary. As of 2021, they cost the EU 4.2 billion euros (https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/).

[-] logi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Noice. That makes €10.8billion for Ukraine.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 45 points 5 months ago

they need to get rid of the 100% thing. two thirds and three fourths majority is hard enough.

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[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

This is what makes the EU dysfunctional - there is not a way to bounce a member from the EU nor a way to override a member states veto. The state can even veto changes to try and override vetos.

The EU continues to exist in a black hole between a super state and a club of nations. Until it resolves that long standing conflict small states like Hungary can hold the whole EU hostage to its demands.

The problem is you'd have to override national sovereignty to get rid of Hungary and once you do that the EU suddenly looks much less democratic. The EU may be too big to force such a fundamental change through now.

The solution to the current problem is obvious - European nations should bypass the EU to provide funds for Ukraine. But that is not palatable to the EU as it undermines the EU itself, making it irrelevant to an area it's trying to take control of - security.

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Removing isn't a thing. Complete suspension of everything, very much yes. And Poland won't save them now, doubly so over Ukraine.

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[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

Hungary is aligned with Putin against the EU.

IF the EU won't admit that, won't deal-with that, THEN the EU will be more-completely-butchered when Trump guts NATO & backs his buddy Putin.

Natural Selection(tm) in action, people: they need to face actuality & grow the fuck up:

kick Hungary out.

Immediately.

They're actively treachery against the EU, DEAL WITH IT!!

( morons "willingly going to the seconary-crime-scene in the hopes of using social-process to make things go better, there"...

WHEN SOMEONE IS TAKING YOU TO A SECONDARY-CRIME-SCENE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE BUTCHERED THERE: FIGHT TO THE DEATH IMMEDIATELY.

That has been explained by good-cops for many many many years.

Nobody learns.

Natural Selection is going to be unnecessarily pruning extra European lives, as a result of the EU's retardedness, in the coming decade. )

[-] whyalone@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Yep, Orban is a full blown dictator endorsed by Putin, if Trump wins, Europe will be in big trouble.

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 5 months ago

Can't the EU 'suspend' Hungary's membership until Orban the dictator is removed from office?

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

FUCK Hungary, kick them the fuck out already goddamn.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

The EU isn't going to kick out their scapegoat. Countries are perfectly capable of coordinating and sending aid without an EU resolution. If Germany, France, or anyone else wanted to send aid it would be in transit already.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 30 points 5 months ago

Hungary needs to get their shit together, or Ukraine will be the least of the worries when they are shown the door or have funding slashed, lol.

I can guarantee life in the EU is better than that of a vassal state of Russia.

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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

looks like it's easy for their politicians to choose between Victor or Ban?

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

the EU needs to cast out Hungary.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Kick em out

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