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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 110 points 5 months ago

LIED. He LIED, CNN. Say it!

“Falsely claimed” for fuck's sake, you spineless republiQan sewer holes.

It’s been almost a goddamned decade CNN! WaPo? NYT? Looking at all you “falsely claimed” motherfuckers. When are you going to grow up? Hm? When are you going to actually do the work of journalism instead of your paper-thin republiQan brigading?

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 months ago

"Lied" implies intent, which is a very squishy subject. I'd prefer they stick to just the facts, please. I'm no lawyer, but I suspect you might be asking for libel suits if you claim somebody lied and can't actually prove that they did so intentionally.

[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They accuse them of bad journalism. Supposing intent you can't prove is the definition of bad journalism. People need to temper their instinctual emotions a bit. I'm upset about Trump being a serial liar too (which I can say, because I'm a nobody who can totally infer his intent) but cmon, can we not leave the very foundations of factual journalism in the dust in our quest to right that wrong?

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

If you can’t call a liar a liar that is not good journalism either

[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Why does journalism need to spoonfeed people? Why can't we take accountability? They report the facts. Facts are provable, with evidence. You can only very, very rarely prove intent with evidence. A lie is an untruth delivered with intent. They cannot prove that and as such should not report it. We, as readers, should then piece the facts together. They're giving you facts, not teaching you how to think. It's not their job.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Let me get this straight: You're not sure whether Trump did deliberately claim that he didn't say, repeatedly, often, publicly, on the TV and on social media "lock her up"? You think he accidentally denied saying it, or you have come to doubt your recollection of "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"?

[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 6 points 5 months ago

I'm thinking it doesn't matter what we think, it matters which one could accrue expensive court costs. Because "false claim" is specific and provable, "lied" is murky and general. When it comes to libel and slander lawsuits, the legal system runs on semantics and pedantry.

Why should they open themselves to that kind of legal system enabled retribution? After all, we all know whose pants are on fire.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

tHeY hAvE tO bE oBjEcTiVe.

[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 68 points 5 months ago

We have the many videos. There's probably a compilation on YouTube of him starting lock her up chants.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

"It doesn't matter, it was all AI generated by Antifa. Real Men Wear Diapers!"

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

and this is why AI/deepfakes are so scary.

It isn't just that there might be fake stuff out there. it's that real stuff could get called fake. ("I didn't say that. Deep fake FAKE NEWS FaKe NeWs!!!!")

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 27 points 5 months ago

If they can convince themselves to believe he never said it, I'm going to just assume Trumpism isn't politics so much as mental illness.

[-] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Always has been.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I mean.... in large part, I'm already there.

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[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago

His supporters wear the damn shirts

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[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 42 points 5 months ago

Breaking News: Lying liar lies some more lies.

More at 11.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

more at eleven

Seriously. He can’t STFU to save his life.

[-] Treczoks@lemm.ee 41 points 5 months ago

Trump is easy to understand:

Trump opens mouth -> Trump lies.

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[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Even for Trump, this one is a lot. It was essentially his campaign slogan. He didn't just say it, he led chants of it in front of crowds.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 36 points 5 months ago

If Trump is claiming something, falsely is how he is going to do it.

[-] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If it's worth claiming, it's worth falsely claiming

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

He real scared about that sentencing.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Of course he said that. How is anyone even surprised at this point? Since Day 1 he's been saying whatever he wants to be true at the time - creating his own "reality" - and his base goes with it. He's never been burdened by the truth, and there's been no repercussions for his flagrant lying. Yes, this is an outrageous lie, but even in that it's unremarkable.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Read this earlier today and it just blew my mind… I mean, he said it during a bunch of his rallies and invented the “lock her up” thing

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

That you reject the evidence of your eyes and ears is Trump's essential command.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago

I mean at this point does this clown remember like 80% of the shit he's said??

[-] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 12 points 5 months ago

I'd like to have someone ask him to name all of his children out of the blue.

I bet he'd get three, maybe four.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

those fake videos aren’t me. Those are deep fakes from the deep state. I don’t remember saying that! No one I know, good people, remember that. This is the first time I’ve heard of Hillary Clinton!!

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Proof of senility or a bald faced lie.

Either way, just one more reason he's unfit.

[-] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago

"I didn't say that forty thousand times during the 2016 election!"

[-] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

One of the memes that has followed Trump for almost a decade is “Lock her up!” Is he truly this lost that he forgot one of the things he ran for president (and won) chanting?

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

Republicans are NOT in a Cult and TOTALLY think for Themselves and they BELIEVE this while wearing "Lock Her Up" shirts!

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

That is a complete lie.

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