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submitted 5 months ago by ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/reddit@lemmy.world

Been thinking of making a post like this for some time, apologies if some of this is not completely relevant: this community seems more like it's about Reddit the platform/product than Reddit the social "thing", but I'm sure a lot of people have similar experiences to mine. Maybe on some instances more than others.

Here's the one of the last comments I wrote as a regular Reddit user, on the eve of the blackout (almost a year ago to the day), under a post titled "Will your participation in Reddit change":

My comment

I will keep searching Google for Reddit help threads, but as a cultural and news aggregator I think this is the end for me. Maybe I will check it every so often. On desktop. On the old site. Until they sunset that too.
I wouldn’t be against using the first party app if it wasn’t so awful to use.
It’s a massive shame that we’ve all collectively agreed that Reddit is the de facto way to create open communities online. There were so many forums that could fill the void left by Reddit for things like tech and art and they’ve all shut down in the past decade.
I try not to be too negative about the evolution and constant growth of the userbase of the site and of the internet as a whole, but I’ve really felt like things are moving in a direction I can’t even be cautiously optimistic about lately.
I think of all the mod tools that will be defunct. The commonly cited example is that people who comment excessively on adult subs are automatically barred from commenting on the teenagers subreddit. Sure the admins can whip up functionality to do this, but this site was built on custom tools and custom CSS and all that. I think the API was one among the many secret sauces that give Reddit this staying power. These sites and forums I talked about - I used to hop from one to the next year after year. Until I found Reddit a decade ago.
I like that I choose my subs and that I don’t get algorithmically ordered sludge designed to game the algorithm on my homepage. Yes the sensibilities of the lowest common denominator redditors are gamed by people posting, but that’s (in my opinion) acceptable.
Frankly if they kept the old Reddit Gold pricing (4 bucks per month/30 annual) and gated unrestricted API access behind it I would have been inclined to finally give Reddit money. I use it a lot, I don’t mind paying now that I can afford it. But something about how it’s all going down really doesn’t fill me with confidence.
I’ve been trying to write a post about this for a while now, but I haven’t felt like it was relevant. Thanks for asking here

Reading through this is a bit funny, in retrospect, seeing how Reddit-centric my understanding of the internet had become at the time. I am happy to report that I have checked the home page maybe a half dozen times since the blackout, instead of once or twice a week like I expected. I suppose the disgusting state of the heavily astroturfed worldnews sub was a big part of it as well: for me Reddit was the one big online platform where the average visible user didn't seem to be very misinformed about Palestine (at least not by default), and it was frankly very sad to see where it got in the past few months.

I do miss Reddit, I haven't been able to replace it outright. I'm from Lebanon, and Lebanese Twitter is (if you can imagine it) even more of a toxic cesspool than regular Twitter. I'm not on Facebook (also cesspool here), I'm not on Instagram - my point is I don't get anything about my country on ostensibly user-curated social media. /r/Lebanon was very far from perfect, but it was nice to get a trickle of local news with users who were more in line with my own politics. The local news outlets focus on a lot of irrelevant crap, the sub's news feed was a bit more interesting.

One thing I loved about that subreddit was that users with more mainstream views in my country (eg. transphobia-as-default) were allowed to spout their bullshit in the subreddit with little mod pushback (if it's just JAQing off etc, not harrassing people obviously). Then the regulars would dogpile on that user's post - very refreshing! And very validating I would imagine for anyone who is used to hearing this shit everyday.

I was applying to be a mod to help keep the sub moving, at one point, but hey. Maybe that headache was never worth it. Still, I felt like I lost one of my online homes.

More generally, I have enjoyed my first year on Lemmy, although the experience has been lacking in many ways. For one, while Reddit has a reputation as a meme cemetery, the memes here are generally a bit moldier. But that's okay. The fact that there's fewer posts I think isn't necessarily a bad thing either, I think we all preferred Reddit's slightly slower homepage in 2013 than the one we left in 2023, that would regurgitate more and more from the bottom of the barrel if you were willing to keep scrolling.

I've toyed with opening a Lebanon community here on dbzer0, having opened one on FMHY that nobody used. But it wouldn't be the same, and I wouldn't know how to populate it. I posted maybe 2 non-question posts on Reddit in my decade+ of being a regular user, but I wrote tons of comments. It also helped keep my English sharper, I think.

I've reactivated my old Instagram account and it's pretty ass out there. The ad/post ratio is just egregious, and they'll just serve you random posts from random pages. I want to see my friends goddamn it, isn't this what your platform is supposed to be for? For those of you who don't know, the app will also send you a notification once or twice a day suggesting you look at "today's top reels". I have never watched a reel of my own will, fuck off.

Point being, the main platforms people use online haven't been up my alley. I can only hope the zoomer dumbphone pushback keeps expanding, and that social media starts being seen as something for older generations. Wishful thinking?

This is just a post about enshittification, everyone's favorite word, but every time I think about it for more than 2 minutes I can't help but miss a simpler internet. Some part of me was hoping it would kickstart me "growing out" of spending this much time online per day (not everyone spends a ton of time online), but it hasn't.

Also every time I ask something longer than 20 words on Discord some middle schooler will reply "yap", even in the channels designated for questions. Discord has had its uses (yes I know there's privacy concerns), but it's hardly a replacement for Reddit, or forums. Both of which are/were searchable. But enough yapping from me.

Thoughts? How has the exodus been for you? Is this how Digg users felt?

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I wish everyone could embrace the idea that different communities will be found in different places.

You don't need all your things to be on Lemmy.

There might be a nice niche community on reddit, or some likeminded souls in a discord channel, cool memes on an old school forum, or a group of friends in a signal group, or god forbid - a place to sell old junk on facebook.

I recently found a community of bike repair enthusiasts in XMPP chat which has been invaluable.

Honestly, are we all really that lazy that we can't bear to open a new tab and switch to whatever other platform? The idea of having to be "on lemmy" and not on reddit is very 2023.

I would very much like to seek out a vibrant variety of different communities wherever they may be.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

I haven't really been back either, and I also miss it in some ways. I think for me I mostly miss the broader user base. Lemmy skews hard into a few interest groups, especially tech-focused ones, and while I have overlap there, I wish there were more types of people on here with less techy interests.

I tried bluesky for a little bit, but I honestly just bounce off Twitter whenever I try it, and Twitter clones have the same problem I guess. They have such a strong undercurrent of outrage and smugness, and while reddit and Lemmy could be accused of having some of this too, something about it feels much worse to me on microblogging sites.

I also miss the culture of linking to other subreddits in comments. That was a big way I found new communities on Reddit over the years, either ones I joined or just funny things you can't believe exist. I think the lack of that on here really hurts the ability for me to find smaller communities. Thanks to federation I'm not even sure how you do it on here. I'm sure it's more complicated than L/whatever.

I actually don't mind Instagram, but only after revancing it. 🙃

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I still get on reddit, but not often because red reader is basic, and the reddit app is trash

[-] ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

This is a minor point but on Instagram if you press the logo in the top left you can pick Following and it shows you a chronological timeline of only those accounts you actually follow. Instead of the usual shitshow set of reels.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I have been trying to cut down my social media use. Leaving reddit was a big part of that. What actually happened was I spend time here and on YouTube, and occasionally I load up old reddit!

I'm trying guys, but it's hard.

[-] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

I still lurk on Reddit for some communities like for my city, but I no longer engage

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I couldn't give it up. My baby bump group and parents of multiples group are too valuable a resource. The general parenting sub on lemmy isn't active, much less such niche things. The main alternative to them is Facebook groups, which I'm even less inclined to deal with than reddit.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The only thing I miss is /r/listentothis. I would open rif and vanced in split mode on my phone and sort by hot/month. I could then easily start playing a song on my TV and continually add songs to the que. Now they changed it so that posts with a YouTube video didn't even give you a YouTube link. It embeds the video in the Reddit post so you have to go into the post and then click play in order to open the video in YouTube. Way too many steps and I've never been able to figure out a way to quickly get a list of links to create a playlist on YouTube or VLC.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

I'm still using it for niche interests, via FreshRSS and RedditBridge, there's little alternative to that reach as I always hated Facebook (never joined curmudgeon) and never took to twitter. I keep ratcheting up the votes needed to hit my feed in many subreddits, but that never helps, should work out how to make it weekly, monthly, becoming a chore. Like it here, as a linux scifi etc type, but miss the diversity.

[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

I left reddit for good a year ago as well and I haven't looked back.

The only thing I miss are the creepy askreddit threads, but I found that a lot of youtubers love curating and making videos on them, so that's filled that hole pretty nicely.

[-] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Ultimately building a community involves posting content so that people subscribe and then end up adding their own content. Maybe there is some advertising you can do elsewhere to increase the flow a little but in essence its about making a place people go to look for new articles daily and they find it.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If you're on Android, try Instagram lite. Still works without ads.

[-] PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don't miss Reddit....

I just wish my topics and engagement were relocated to a neutral place where you can have an opinion and not be banned by some coward with an empty title....I want Reddit to crash like MySpace.... over moderation is off-putting on any platform...... really aggravating.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

For people missing small communities, maybe try starting them?

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