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YouTube Is Cracking Down on Gun Content, and 3D-Printed Gun Makers Aren't Happy (gizmodo.com)

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 128 points 5 months ago

“So guys getting blown up in trenches in Ukraine by drones? Ha, totally not age-restricted,” the creator said. “ Me firing a 3D printed pink glock that I made? Age-restricted. We don’t need kids watching that. We want kids watching people getting blown up by mines. Love it. Awesome.”

Guys missing the corpo bottom line.

Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn't exist for Ukraine war vids.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

I suspect this is exactly right.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago

More generally "gun control" is never about controlling the cops, military, MIC, etc. There's bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 4 points 5 months ago

Of course the state wants to maintain its monopoly on violence. That's what states do.

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[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 80 points 5 months ago

People sitting at home 3D printing guns aren't happy? Who could have guessed.

[-] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 31 points 5 months ago

I'm guessing most people aren't happy.

Not just in the gun community but like everyone.

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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 73 points 5 months ago

3D printed guns are being used by fighters in Myanmar.

https://3dprint.com/302100/myanmar-rebels-rely-on-3d-printed-guns-to-fight-military-junta/amp/

They’re pretty important if you want to be anti-authoritarian.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

How is this relevant? They will still be able to watch YouTube videos about the topic like before, it’s just age restrictions for under 18

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[-] Gigasser@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I think the people who get up in arms over 3d printed guns forget that most people will never develop the skills or even have the prerequisite skills to make one anyways. It isn't like you just plug in the printer, down load a file, and you have a gun. You need to learn alot of other things to actually make something functional. Things like ECM (electro chemical machining) is often necessary and a whole host of other skills.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago

Soon the only content left on Youtube will be AI generated ads for Ponzi schemes.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

We can only hope.

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Is this why Ian McCollum's videos are getting altered? Over the years, he's had many historical deep-dives featuring firearms from the Murphy's auction house. In recent months, he's been re-uploading those videos to cover their logo with the word "Morphy's". Even though the auctions are long over, I suppose Google counts them as promoting sales.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

I remember something from "forgotten weapons" where he I think he talked about having to retroactively blur the auction house because he didn't work with them anymore or a change in their policy. Not a Google one, I think.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

He fucked himself over with some of the auction houses by trying to set up backroom deal to buy a gun outside of the auction. Understandingly they don't appreciate that sort of thing. Ian has a history of not being a great person, but he's good at hiding it from the public eye.

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[-] WFloyd@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I used to frequent the FOSSCAD IRC ages back as a teen. This started during the post-Liberator panic, there were talks about regulating 3D printers to not allow printing guns, etc. Designed a few things, never actually printed any of it myself, but some others did. Really got me into engineering before I exited the scene, led to actually pursuing an engineering career. Was surprised to see 3D printed gun videos so openly shared, it was pretty underground for ages there.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I used to run the 3D printing community on G+ at around 500k strong, (about 10k weekly active users according to Google's stats) and I ended up actually pissing off a lot of my European users because of this. My viewpoint on it, was as an engineering exercise -- it's an amazing thing. It's not advocating for guns, and guns aren't only used to kill other people. So I stood up for the guys posting about their engineering challenges, and their work making 3D printed parts for a machine with high impact loads and loads of cycling issues.

Unfortunately, it lost me some friends, like Gina Haubage and Tomas Sanladerer -- as they disagreed highly; and wanted to ban anyone posting firearms related 3D printing content.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

there is probably no point in fighting this sort of thing, but i wish we would engineer something else instead

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Projectiles are a part of human nature. We've always thrown spears, rocks, etc -- firearms are just an extension of our better understanding of the world. I know of barely anything else that uses explosive charges that is as widely applicable to the general public. Roofing nail guns? But that's such a niche subject, it's not something people are really worried about trying to make with 3D printing. Believe me, if I had a better engineering challenge for 3D printing, I'd be suggesting it. But nothing quite hits like containing an explosive charge, and utilizing the energy in a way that performs work without destroying itself.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

camera gear? experimental musical instruments? i think an idiot could make a list of things that aren't guns and don't suck

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Things that "don't suck" are far away from peak exciting.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Did you miss the qualifier "that uses explosive charges"? The engineering challenge is in the explosive part.

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[-] WFloyd@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Absolutely, it's a fabulous engineering challenge, to make it work well on a hobbyist grade 3D printer with ordinary materials. Also a lesson in using the right tool for the right job (some parts are just better off milled or bought OtS)

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 21 points 5 months ago

PSR is an awesome channel and his music slaps. He doesn't give any instructions or links to files or anything else. He just shows completed examples he built that the community designed. YouTube needs to fuck off with the censorship. The information is all out there. They aren't protecting anybody.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

lol as if they are doing it to protect anybody.

nothing YouTube ever does, or Google for that matter, is to protect anything but their ad revenue.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It might quell the lifestyle image of the phenomenon. If it does, it's only a few drops in the bucket.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Google is ruining themselves to suck off advertisers. Hopefully someone can fill the gap of YouTube.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago

PeerTube could use some love.

[-] TheMirkMan@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Maybe odysse will rise

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[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 9 points 5 months ago

Use peertube fools

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[-] Shanedino@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Haha, private company, you can't do shit about it.

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 6 points 5 months ago

Lost profits for the gun industry.

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