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submitted 5 months ago by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Key points:

  • Cara's Rapid Growth: The app gained 600,000 users in a week

  • Artists Leaving Instagram: The controversy around Instagram using images to train AI led many artists to seek an alternative

  • Cara's Features: The app is designed specifically for artists and offers a 'Portfolio' feature. Users can tag fields, mediums, project types, categories, and software used to create their work

  • While Cara has grown quickly, it is still tiny compared to Instagram's massive user base of two billion.

  • Glaze Integration: Cara is working on integrating Glaze directly in the app to provide users with an easy way to protect their work from be used by any AI

more about: https://blog.cara.app/blog/cara-glaze-about

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[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 244 points 5 months ago

Join Pixelfed instead!

Cara is just another fucking centralized social media that’s gonna get run to the ground the moment they can monetize their user base.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 89 points 5 months ago

Artists are mostly not going to figure out the fediverse. There really needs to be some kind of way of accessing it that is more layman friendly if we ever want it to be adopted by non-nerds

[-] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 75 points 5 months ago

Artists are perfectly able to use the fediverse, that is not what is stopping them.

They don't come because they need to be where their fans are. That is why Cara will only be a splash: their niche is artists who place more value on the anti-AI slant than on meeting their audience where it lives. By definition that is not conducive to a lot of organic growth.

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[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

It’s really not that complicated and with shit like Threads, companies are introducing the concept to the masses while the enshittification of Instagram and the like will force people to look for alternatives.

We need to welcome people with open arms and not push them away the moment someone has a question about how federation works.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 19 points 5 months ago

Threads is only federated in name. It's simply Meta's taking advantage of Twitter's downfall. It's as centralized and under Meta's thumb as they come.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Still introduces the concept and will make people aware of other instances.

Definitely avoid it but it’s still publicly for federation.

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 months ago

You say that like this shit is hard to use.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago

Nah. But anything more complicated than a MacBook scares most people away. Most people aren't down with anything that isn't a turnkey experience

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[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

The artist and nerd Venn diagram is practically a circle around my parts.

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[-] small44@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Cara is popular because of it's anti ai stance. They have a detector to not allow ai images to be on the platform. Pixelfed allows it and also lack active users that are not artists.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

For now.

Ai support or not it will still be aggressively monetized the moment enough users are locked in.

Fomo is a hell of a drug eh.

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 134 points 5 months ago

Yet another centralised social network. That pinky-promises they'll never go bad.

Join now! Bring your friends! No ads! Everything's free! We're indie!...

Moments later... enshitification ensues.

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 55 points 5 months ago

Solves the problem for a few years until Meta buys their users and data back.

[-] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago

Assuming they don't own them already as a sort of pressure valve. Yeah I'm getting that cynical.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Does it seem odd... This is a crowd that is all about "hands off muh property". And yet they see nothing suspicious about someone giving them a free service.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago

According to their terms and service, everything uploaded to their website is then owned by them. Doesn't seem very artist friendly to me.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

I knew that C looked familiar!

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

They actually seem quite a bit different. The one for Cara isn't perfectly round and seems to suggest a person in the middle.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago

Pixelfed looks like they are doing a huge push to get up to speed. It has been an immature app/platform for a long time and slow to get the features that people need from a photo sharing social media.

According to their mastodon, they are working for better AI management features, and launching an app that will make it a genuinely positive experience.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The official app is available in beta. I’m very impressed w it

[-] ams@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

I really want Pixelfed to take off and this really could have been a moment, but after using it for more than a year now, I just can't see it. Development is very slow - it feels like a one-man show (it might not be). We do need an alternative to Instagram, but yeah..

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

So what happend when this app needs to pay server costs for 600,000 people?

[-] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Re: the hosting company

Your account does not appear to have spend management enabled, which would allow you to pause your project entirely if you hit a certain level of spend.

So, this is something of a devil's bargain. Either shut down your website just as it's catching fire and gaining traction. Or get billed a year's server budget in a matter of days because of exploding costs.

In a saner world, this might be used as an argument for treating the Internet as a public utility and not a for-profit rent. Perhaps more companies could grow and sustain large pools of customers if they weren't kneecapped by their own momentum.

Instead, I'm sure we're going to see more exotic insurance and finance services designed to siphon money out of websites as a hedge against unexpected growth.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

Do you mind telling what this says ? it seems Firefox doesn't load twitter anymore. Or maybe you need an account ? I'm not sure, but it says "error"

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

"Jingna Zhang @ cara.app/zemotion @zemotion So freaking speechless right now. Seen many @vercel functions stories but first time experiencing such discrepancy vs request logs like, this is cannot be real??"

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[-] Mastema@infosec.pub 32 points 5 months ago

Is it federated and open source? If not, I'll pass.

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Pixelfed is the alternative we want

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

...until they decide to sell their company. Or their user data. Or the shareholders say so. Or...

[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Cara has no passwords: you log in via Google or Apple

uhuh, no thanks

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

So much bad faith, I logged in just fine with a regular e-mail.

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[-] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago
[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

the crowdfunding/patronage of this platform only helps them build their proprietary empire. It's like giving money to your neighbor who wants to build a swimming pool on their property because they promise you'll be able to swim in it.

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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago
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[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I'll be watching this curiously from a safe distance for now. I am interested in a new platform without AI, but this stinks of early-stage enshitification.

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[-] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 months ago

This will be the headline a month later:

Cara's monthly active users down to a few thousands. Here's why.

[-] Nighed@sffa.community 17 points 5 months ago

What is their monetisation plan? Currently they don't seem to have anything other than donations?

[-] Schal330@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

You'll have to ask the company that eventually buys them out!

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[-] vodkasolution@feddit.it 13 points 5 months ago

I'm no federated-nazi and I welcome projects like Cara, but at the beginning there are always lots of subscriptions

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is why twitter will never die.

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