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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by TankieTanuki@hexbear.net to c/technology@hexbear.net

Maybe one of you hogs knows what's up.

I got a new IP address for my VPS and updated the DNS A record accordingly. That was two days ago and I still get an "unable to connect" error when trying to access TankieTube through protonVPN.

However, if I drop the VPN everything works. This is the case with both Firefox and Chrome.

Does this have to do with DNS propagation?

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[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

It's probably some automated block on the VPN provider's part, but there is the ever so small chance that they have a misconfigured DNS server that ignored the TTL on the A record and is still trying to ping the old IP.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

What reason would a VPN have to block websites? Usually it's the websites blocking the VPNs.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It could be propagation, and it could also be the VPN itself being blacklisted - I don't think it's uncommon for commercial hosting services to blacklist VPN subnet blocks depending on the reputation of the VPN.

Could maybe try a traceroute from the VPS to your VPN IP

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Traceroute can't reach my VPN endpoint but neither can it reach my bare home IP because I'm behind a CGNAT.

I didn't change hosting providers with my IP; they moved me to an IP block with a "cleaner" reputation at my request. Would the provider block a VPN from some of its subnets but not others?

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

It's possible, it's also possible that you got IP blocked temporarily for suspicious behavior but that would entirely depend on how your provider works

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I just opened a ticket. We'll see what they say.

Would it be unusual for a VPN provider to block access to subnets? That's not how things work, right?

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I agree that it doesn't seem very likely that the VPN is blocking any subnets

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

2 days says to me not DNS propagation

https://protonvpn.com/features/adblocker could be this or another one of Proton's "protection" features (okay scare quotes is a little harsh but I kinda start to roll my eyes with that type of stuff)

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I connect by OpenVPN instead of the app, so I don't think I'm using that feature.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

well you can rule out DNS issues by making sure it resolves properly using command line tools like dig. traceroute is hard to use on a lot of modern networks but a simple ping is still usable, or something like netcat or curl to rule out browser shenanigans

I have actually had some weird issues like this too, where I seemingly couldn't reach hexbear from my former VPN provider at one point, but it eventually recovered, so maybe bad peering/blocking due to abuse going on from either the VPS provider or the VPN provider? But it was very annoying to troubleshoot and not that big of a deal so I don't think I ever found a smoking gun

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

traceroute is hard to use on a lot of modern networks

Is that why most of the hops come back as * * *?

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

yeah

the internet was not designed for NAT, and it was not designed for ICMP to be disabled lol

[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

Is your VPN configured to use the domain name of your VPS or the IP?

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I type the domain name into the browser and it uses protonVPN's nameservers to get the IP afaik.

[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Ah okay so your VPS isn't the VPN gateway, you're using protonVPN's. If you do a dig or nslookup against their DNS servers you cam confirm if their records are updated. If they are then I would guess like others in the thread suggested it's something on Proton's side

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I forget how to use it properly off the top of my head, but nslookup should be able to tell you what the dns lookup looks like and where the mismatch is coming from.

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