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submitted 4 months ago by FookReddit69@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Because tbh I don't see myself and many others getting a partner or anything similar that is "the real deal". Not gonna lie, if robots were as advanced as they are in sci-fi movies I would had married one and had those as friends.

I think all that will only be advanced enough when I'm gone unfortunately...

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[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago
[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 months ago

Yup, can't eat the A of an artificial intelligence

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

Have you ever heard of teledildonics? I guarantee if there was a demand, you could eat that. It could be programmed to respond to where and how fast you perform. It would be multi-functional so you could enjoy the devices in other ways.

I agree with your conclusion, but not your reasoning.

[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

"teledildonics" is the most glorious word i've ever heard :D

my reply was more a comment on Adam's nickname ^^

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

Oh I missed your reference! Nice!

[-] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

If only Palmer Lucky had gone all in on teledildonics instead of whatever defence crap he's peddling these days. We'd all be eating that sweet robot ass.

[-] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago

At the point where you and the AI can see someone straightening their tie in a certain way and you and the AI can exchange a single wordless glance and you both burst out laughing 'cos it was just like that thing that you both saw 6 months ago and found hilarious then - then maybe.

Not before.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

In a word? No.

In three words? No, definitely not.

In five words? Never Gonna Give You Up

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

To think that video has more views now than there are people in the Southern Hemisphere.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago
  • It was opened, but not necessarily watched
  • The same person can open the video multiple times.

Still a big number, but it doesn't mean that many people watched it.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

It used to be that a single IP or single channel could only produce a single view on each video.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

That's a good point, but even then, a single person could click the video on different devices on different networks (especially over time with switching providers or VPN usage at all), and a lot of people watch YouTube without an account.

Especially with Rick Rolling. Not everyone would end up watching on a signed-in account.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

A large part of the "magic" with human relationships is that out of all of the 8 billion some people in the world, those who are close to you have chosen to spend time with you. For all of our flaws, they see your true nature and value you for it, and choose to have you as part of their lives.

With an AI, that may not be a thing.

If they're programmed to like you, they're at best a toy and at worst a slave. There's no freedom for them to choose or not to choose to be with you. You're getting an imitation of a relationship. It could be a convincing imitation, with built-in arguments and other idiosyncrasies, but to me every time I hit one of those, it would just be a stark reminder that it's not the real thing and it's just programmed to behave that way.

If they're not programmed to like you and are free to form or not form connections with humans, there's no guarantee you'd have any more luck wooing an AI than you would a human.

[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago
[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago
[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

I don't have another one, this is me.

[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Everyone is capable of change. And I mean this as gently as possible, but it looks from your post history that you might benefit from talking to a therapist. It seems like you’re in a deep depression hole, and I know it can be hard to see it in the moment, but therapy, medication, and lifestyle changes can really do wonders for improving your mood and outlook on life.

[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago
[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

It’s not. Those things have worked for me and many others. You’re not that special. If you want to keep wallowing in hating and pitying yourself, that’s your choice. But remember that it’s not life and the world conspiring against you, it’s your own shitty behavior that drives people away.

[-] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

I'll go a little against the grain here. I think that LLM chatbots will definitely find application helping lonely people, and some people will develop a real connection to the bot. A relationship with a bot might be similar to one with a human, but it will never be identical. So it won't replace human connections, but that doesn't mean it wont have significant utility and be meaningful to people.

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree with this. After seeing some videos of people messing with the voice conversations in ChatGPT I played with it a bit. Most of the voices are annoying and sound too much like some overly excited marketing person, but before they removed it the voice that sounded like Scarlett Johansson was pretty realistic and more normal. The emotional part of my brain felt content that it was involved in a two way conversation with a friendly and thoughtful person.

For example, as a test said something like I was feeling anxious about something, and it responded with encouragement about the situation and some ideas, and it actually did make me feel better. Or as another test I asked it to practice small talk and it had a whole scenario and we just chatted and it talked about working in marketing and asked questions, when I got bored with that it talked about how well it went. During that conversation my brain was pretty convinced it was talking to a woman in marketing, and it also felt good to have approval.

I was just messing around for a few minutes and I am convinced many people will feel a social and emotional connection, and that was just a verbal conversation.

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

For AI to have the advantages of human relationships it would have to have the drawbacks as well.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

You say that like it'd be difficult to train an AI to complain when you piss on the toilet seat because they left it down

[-] Capitao_Duarte@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 4 months ago

It just amazes me how people don't close the toilet lid. It shouldn't be seat down or up, it should be closed for when you flush

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago

Some people like waste particles on their exposed toothbrushes. It keeps them healthy like vaccine: a daily tiny dose of literal shit.

[-] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Why? If you say to limit the spread of bacteria we have some studies that suggest it makes no difference at all

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Here's a tip: get a UV light and turn it on in your bathroom. It'll make you close the lid pretty quickly.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 5 points 4 months ago

What about children, do you imagine you can have them with the robot?

Children are a big part of romantic relationships, evolutionary they are the main reason for them.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Children are a big part of romantic relationships for a lot of people but by no means all

Many people are happily in committed childfree relationships, other people cannot or should not have children for a great number of reasons but still want and need romantic relationships, and there are still other cases where children put unnecessary strain on otherwise happy relationships.

I think there's a great number of reasons that AI should not be considered a replacement for human relationships, romantic or otherwise, but reproduction isn't one of them.

Even if AI could otherwise replace a romantic partner, and if children are something you desire in a relationship, there's still options like adopting, IVF, and surrogacy

And if we want to get a bit weird and sci-fi about it, that's without considering the sorts of unknown scientific developments that may come further down the line. Who knows what form AI may take at some point in the future? We may end up with AIs inhabiting some sort of replicant body that's compatible with human reproduction, or perhaps even entirely new forms of life and intelligence in a sort of melding of man and machine.

[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I want kids but I won't find a woman and I'm poor so adoption is out of the question. I'm fucked I guess.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

What are you looking for in a woman? Any requirements/conditions?

[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Physically attractive to me and not a bitch. I don't know what else to say

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

So like this?

Hopefully the second one is no problem.

[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago
[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago
[-] FookReddit69@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Even though you mentioned appearances?

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

I saw a video about AI girlfriends, which people definitely think they have right now, and it pointed out that they are just you reflected back at yourself through a funhouse mirror. And that strikes me as being a very apt explanation.

So could you be your own friend? Your own lover? If that's not satisfying to you without AI, I think you'd find AI to be just as shallow and wanting.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

For some people? Yes.

Fully? No.

[-] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

No, the most they'll do is coexist. I'm not saying this to invalidate AI companionships, in fact I would fully support your marriage to one, but even in true AI, there will always be things that mark AI interactions as different from human ones, such as heightened interactive uniformity.

[-] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Not completely. Some people will continue to be human to human friends and partners, and some will use AI instead, especially those who have problems to get along with humans.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No, because they can't develop emotions

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So can't I, what's your point?

[-] all-knight-party@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago

Ahh, so once the AI can develop smarmy humor that doesn't add anything to your discussion with it, THEN it'll be like real people

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
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