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Ukraine destroyed columns of waiting Russian troops as soon as it was allowed to strike across the border, commander says (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 4 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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Ukraine destroyed columns of waiting Russian soldiers with HIMARS, a Ukrainian commander said.
He said Ukraine targeted them as soon as it got permission to use allied weapons across the border.
Military experts say Ukraine's ability to use Western-supplied weapons in Russia is aiding its fightback.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 142 points 4 months ago

I wish they didn't have to wait for things like this. It sucks that Ukraine is at the whims of other countries while it's trying to fight to maintain its sovereignty.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago

It makes me so depressed thinking about how many thousands of Ukrainian lives could’ve been saved by just giving Ukraine full and enthusiastic support immediately instead of dragging it out this long.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 47 points 4 months ago

This was done on purpose so the crisis didn't escalate. There's no world police to prevent Russia from nuking everyone. It's better for outside actors to focus on de-escalation anyway.

Also, Putin is not doing this because of Ukraine. I mean that's part of it, but he is doing it for domestic appeal. He wants to appear tough to Russian citizens. Two situations allow that: beating Ukraine easily, and losing to NATO forces. He knows NATO will not risk invading Russia, so he's in no real danger from the second one.

NATO is intentionally not intervening because it makes Putin look weak domestically. Russia has created their own problem and the war will not end until the people of Russia demand it.

[-] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

The only thing that modern diplomacy teaches nation states today is that they need to get nukes as quickly as possible

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's Putin's doing. His bluff was strong and he had a big pile of material, so the West is using a Russia technique known as the salami slice method, by slowly escalating and gauging the reaction from Putin. It means no world war 3 scenario, no allies that have to come to his defense and also not letting Putin taking whatever he wants with just bluff and threatening speeches. It is costly in lives and material though.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can't make salami without grinding meat I guess. As dark as that sounds. I thank every soul who's been fighting against that thugtatorship.

[-] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago

And we (the US) have so much support that we could be giving to them but we're not. We'd rather enable genocide elsewhere.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

Good. Make Russian civilians see the horrors of the war they support personally.

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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure the kremlin is a legitimate military target

[-] ArcaneGadget@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Wonder if they could make an explosive filled Cessna stealthy enough for that...

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

They don't need stealth apparently. They have gotten drones into that airspace.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

It's a joke about a guy landing a Cessna in Red Square.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

OHAIMARS

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 33 points 4 months ago

"So sad that the Ukrainian government cares so little about it's people it is giving Russia an excuse to demolish Ukraine."

- Some Israel Supporter, probably

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

I'm waiting for these wars to finally come full circle and for Israel to start selling Russia weapons it got from the United States on the cheap.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 4 months ago

Military experts say Ukraine's ability to use Western-supplied weapons in Russia is aiding its fightback.

Wow, thank God for that expert analysis.

[-] RyanLiu@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“Destroyed"? Don't you mean "killed" columns of Russian soldiers? Even if they are in the wrong, these are still lives that are lost, not some equipment.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

In the military it's common to talk about groups of soldiers the same way you talk about equipment. Because the crucial information isn't their humanity, it's their utility to the war effort. "Destroyed" is usually used to mean a unit is so broken it must be combined with other units and different militaries have different definitions of exactly how many casualties that takes.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Not sure, I heard they're actually orcs

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Fuck russia. Kill the blyats.

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