Why gay couples using surrogacy are the latest target for Europe's far right (www.cbc.ca)

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These narratives have also gained hold in Poland, Spain and even progressive Sweden, where politicians who have taken similar lines on surrogacy and LGBTQ+ parental rights have been met with broad support.

"There is this shift in political consensus that has really happened quickly," said Gunnarsson Payne. "It feels like the '90s was back in Sweden — increased racism, right wing populism and now, these debates [about gender]."

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[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This headline is a bit misleading, there are definitely good reasons to oppose using surrogates, among them the exploitation of women in poor countries.

[-] SayJess@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with you that there needs to be a robust system in place to provide resources and other support for women that feel like surrogacy is one of their only ways to make money. However, the legislation in Italy is targeting LGBTQ families specifically. Right wing/fascist ideology the world over is experiencing a renaissance in support of legislating LGBTQ folk back into the shadows. It’s working, btw.

In Italy, it is already illegal for same-sex couples to adopt. Now they are trying to make surrogacy punishable by jail time, no matter where an Italian citizen goes to do it. Should the government be allowed to tell you that you cannot have a family? If I proposed a law that would effectively outlaw your ability to have a family, would you support that? Is this new law really just to protect women?

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Im not supporting the law per se, or claiming that minorities aren't being further marginalised in a lot of places.

I'm just saying that the title here is a bit misleading, because this law prevents anyone (not just a specific group) from using surrogacy, while the title implies that the law targets a specific group.

[-] query@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So it should be about which countries are doing it right, and which countries shouldn't be used for surrogacy.

[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There's ways to solve for that without opposing the practice altogether.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's misleading. Surrogacy needs more protection and reforms, but that doesn't mean it's right to stop gay people from using it. Using coal is rather bad, but blaming China and India on using it is still unfair.

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