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[-] kurikai@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

They better not waste it. The better make changes that actually makes people's life's better. Not just enrich the already wealthy

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago

The labor leader is the most centrist, bland, and ineffective dude I've ever seen. This is absolutely going to be wasted opportunity unless they non-confidence him out.

Their platform doesn't look awful but they need to make sure it actually happens.

The tragedy of our age is that we've got alt right parties in countries across the globe gaining speed while "leftist" parties just continue to push neoliberalism that is crushing us working folks. In countries where real leftist parties have control (Spain is an excellent example) people's lives are noticeably improving and their popularity is solid... in the rest of the world it's basically this really shitty game of "Do we have enough power to keep the disappointing centrists in control or is this the election we go full fucking nazi." America, Canada and France are dealing with this now - the UK will probably have to deal with it next cycle.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Yea, in fact if Labour fucks this up, Reform will ride a wave of populist right wing nastiness in the next election...

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

Centrism is what gets large numbers of votes.

Obviously I hope that they'll do well and make good decisions, but in a choice between a left-wing party that makes a principled stand but fails to secure power and a more centrist one that has more good ideas than bad on balance and does secure power to implement them I think the latter is preferable.

[-] Gamoc@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

You want to be like America? Because a two party system where the right party keeps going right and the left party, which is already right of centre, follows them to court their voters is how we get there.

We have two parties. One getting more and more extreme and one that's letting them, just like in America. People are severely underestimating how dangerous this is and if you've paid any attention whatsoever over the last decade and a half is should be painfully obvious that we are actually tied to America by outside influences and that connection is slowly pulling us off the fascist cliff after them.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago

Whether it's wanted or not is irrelevant. First past the post voting systems inherently move towards a two party system. If you don't want a two-party system then you don't want first-past-the-post voting.

[-] Gamoc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yep, we need proportional representation. And Labour won't do anything about it because they benefit from it.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

From the results that have come in so far, the right wing populist party Reform UK is quickly rising as a new political force. They've placed second in at least three constituencies so far.

If Starmer's Labour fail to make visible progress to the country's fortunes we could be facing a Trump moment in the form of Nigel Farage.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but you already have a king and we in the US just annointed our president king. Unless something changes hard for the better of the Republic in November, we'll be a dictatorship in no time.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

This isn't only a landslide, this is an humiliation. 🤣

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Exit poll predicts Labour will win 410 seats, securing a majority of 170, to the Conservatives’ 131

You need 326 seats for a majority. It's a huge landslide!

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Look who’s excited for a center left party!

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I'd rather than that what we've had.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

It's the best hope for the NHS.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

I paid $400 out of pocket with good insurance for a standard checkup in the US recently. Protect that NHS or you too will get to decide if you want to live or die with every injury.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I'm thousands of dollars in medical debt here in the U.S., but I'm also working on my dual citizenship with the UK, which is looking a lot more positive now... although I also have the possibility of German citizenship, and having an EU passport is pretty appealing, but it's one or the other and I don't know German and I am really bad with languages.

Also, the UK passport is pretty much a definite one whereas the German one will require going through Germany's famous bureaucracy.

Either way, I will want to have a quick exit if I have to come November, and at least now healthcare will not be a factor in the decision.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All I want is Corbyn to win Islington North.

Edit: HE DID!

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Good. I hope LibDems do decent numbers too.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

71 seats with only 2 left to declare.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yup, not bad.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

They sound surprised?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Didn't they listen to the polling last time? They clearly should have run a lettuce.

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

There's a chance Liz Truss could lose her seat this time. She previously had a large majority but her failed stint as PM tarnishing her and a strong challenge by a local independent could unseat her.

Global pork markets will never be the same again.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

Labour is just Conservatives with a jacket on.

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