We said thoughts and prayers, isn't that their custom for victims of gun violence?
Brilliant. The only issue is conservatives don't make arguments by logic. Using logic against them does nothing. The people who need to see this likely can't even read.
I’ve been saying this for years, you can’t do good faith with a bad faith person.
Imo the correct solution is some light trolling, light enough that you still have the moral high ground.
you got to love how they turned the tables and are blaming democrats for fostering an environment of violence lol. Is this what a logic lapse looks like?
And Democrats are gonna buy it and become even more milquetoast.
And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said "dang, it's too bad they missed." Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.
Welcome to the Post-Fact world of the Alt-Right... They don't care that their arguments make no sense, it's about the feeling behind it.
The conservative subreddit is losing their mind rn. They say calling Trump a threat to democracy is violent rhetoric.
Grasping at all the straws in the world.
They say calling Trump a threat to democracy is violent rhetoric.
They aren't strictly wrong. When Republicans insisted that Clinton, Obama, and Biden were a threat to democracy, they absolutely intended it as a call to violence.
The hiccup in their reasoning is that the shooter was one of their dudes. The "Trump is a threat to democracy" line isn't just a GOTV message among Dems. Its an ear-splitting dog whistle from the secessionists and white nationalists who see Jared Kushner as a shadowy (((puppet master))) working Trump's strings. This call came from inside the GOP's own house.
Grasping at all the straws in the world.
Not at all. This is pure projection. Republicans shooting at Republicans, while everyone points at the other and shouts "Double Secret Antifa Infiltrator!" They've drunk their own Deep State kool-aid and now they've got the long knives out for one another.
They're also upset that the shooter was apparently one of their own and not an evil lefty liberal. Clearly they would have liked that.
“If [Hillary Clinton] gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”
He was just joking though. You can tell because he always speaks plainly.
Fucking hell I totally forgot about this shit. Thank you for reminding us.
it's been a while since i've heard them whine about BLM burning the entire country down
Is Portland still actively on fire? I heard after all the immigrants murdered everyone in Chicago they went north
I have been stuck swamping in a truck for days with the driver blasting right wing radio. They never stopped whining about BLM, they just pepper it into everything because they no longer feel the need to talk about it on it's own anymore.
When something becomes that ubiquitous it's always there but as a supporting member of the chorus, not the one in the spotlight
From the first few paragraphs about fascism on Wikipedia
Fascism rejects assertions that violence is inherently negative or pointless, instead viewing imperialism, political violence, and war as means to national rejuvenation
Yes but they will gladly act like violence is bad to gain the sympathy of the average person when it's against their own people.
The shooter was a right wing nutjob apparently?
Personally I think that the whole thing was staged
I absolutely do not think it's staged and hate conspiracy nonsense in general.
But, I like this conspiracy because it's basically doing to Republicans what they do to all victims of actual tragedies. These monsters called Sandy hook crisis actors...
So yea, all of this was definitely staged and is fake news 😂
My personal suspicion is he was a high school libertarian who then realized it was not what he thought. I called myself a libertarian in high school for a short time before I realized what that group was really about (basically freedom to hate, not freedom to love, unless it's loving children). I now call myself an anarchist.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. He was a kid who lost his life probably doing something he was convinced was important, as so many kids do. Is he better or worse than the kids who were told that people in Iraq were evil and a threat to America?
Trump, and the whole MAGA movement, have done so much to erode trust in our institutions. The fact someone felt the need to put everything on the line for their (likely futile) attempt to stop it sucks. Even in success it likely would have failed. It would have galvanized support for that faction and someone else would have taken up the position. We need something more powerful than a bullet to kill the movement.
We don't even really need to check who has been defending or denouncing what if you want to see who's committing violence, there's an even more damning statistic.
Number of People Killed in Deadly Attacks in the Post-9/11 Era, by Ideology
Far Right Wing: 134
Jihadist: 107
Ideological Misogyny/Incel Ideology: 17
Black Separatist/Nationalist/Supremacist: 13
Far Left Wing: 1
It should also be noted that Jihadist terror attacks have almost as many victims as far right terror attacks because the former are just more efficient, but far right terror attacks are far more common. Check the graph in the article.
The fact that the far right candidate has been under a murder attempt by another far right loon is just the cherry on top.
Doesn't even count the OKC bombing, which would shoot up those numbers
And the same party that cries about stochastic terrorism now doesn't believe it either.
Well done.
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
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