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For example, the 2016, 2020, and the pseudo- 2024 Democrat Primaries have shared a significant crowd. People have come and gone(Bernie gave up in 2024. Biden didn't stick in 2016 long due to family issues), but for the most part you'll see the same people. Or the Republicans from 2008-2012, mostly the same guys. Heck, Hillary and Biden, the future nominees, both did really well in 2008, coming second and 3rd(ish) overall. Al Gore had tried prior to Bill getting in. Even way way back you had guys like Henry Clay trying and trying and trying.

But then you compare something like 2012 Republican Primaries to the 2016 Republican Primaries. None of the big names return, no Mitt Romney, no McCain, no Newt Gingrinch, no Rick Sanctorum, no Ron Paul, no Fred Karger. The ONLY returnee at all out of like 15-20 serious contenders was Rick Perry, who was a minor nominee that dropped out early both times. The big 5 or big 6 or even big 7 were completely different.

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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

It takes a ton of money to even try, if you fail you often can't raise that amount again or are out of favours to call on.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Well, McCain died. So he can't show up. That happens sometimes. A more serious note is they show up as long as they have enough support from various sources. The only people attending are the people with a lot hinging on the party, even if they aren't a major nominee. The reason it SoTs itself is because things change, rapidly.

[-] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

He wasn't dead in 2016. None of them were

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Oof, what really happened was he opposed Donald Trump. So thats why he probably wasn't there.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

they're still involved; they're either working from behind the scene are have taken less public role, like in gingrinch's case, to indulge red maga's obsession pro anti-establishment changes.

i think they're onto something because fogey old bastards like me have a tough time forgiving the painful damage that biden et al. caused in our lives and having candidates that were not around to do those things in 1989, 1993, 1996, 2003, 2005, 2008 and 2012 would make it a lot easier to vote for them.

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