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"Biden realized that Netanyahu was lying to him about the hostages," the official told Haaretz. "He's not saying it publicly yet, but in the meeting between them, he specifically told him, 'Stop bullshitting me.'"

On Friday, a senior member of the Israeli negotiating team told Haaretz that Israeli defense chiefs believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not interested in a hostage deal/cease-fire with Hamas. Israel's Channel 12 also reported on a tense exchange between Netanyahu and the defense chiefs, in which Shin Bet head Ronen Bar said, "It feels like the prime minister doesn't want the framework that's on the table." Turning to Netanyahu, he added that if that is the case, "you should tell us."

Mossad chief David Barnea stressed to Netanyahu, "There is a deal on the table. If we delay, we could miss the opportunity. We have to take it." Netanyahu, per the report, reacted angrily, accusing the defense chiefs of being "soft."

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[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 142 points 2 years ago
[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 89 points 2 years ago

Could also use this pokemon meme

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 years ago

Gee, what could have possibly clued Biden into the fact that Netenyahu was being disingenuous? Could it possibly have been the fact that after every time they spoke, Bibi would immediately go on-air in Israeli press and brag about what a little removed Biden is and how he’s completely in Bibi’s pocket? Could that have been a sign?!

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israel blows up the guy they're negotiating a ceasefire with.

Biden: "Hm... I'm starting to think this guy is not being entirely honest about wanting a peace..."

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago
[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 19 points 2 years ago

Now that's a meme I've not seen in a long time. A long time.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

So sick of my tax dollars going to these ungrateful fucks who dishonor their ancestors by partaking in exactly what they themselves went through.

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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago

You mean the Netanyahu whom Sarkozy and Obama called a liar 10 years ago? I mean, come on, obviously anyone with close knowledge of Israel ans Palestine knows Bibis track record – but if Obama knew it 10 years ago, then even his then-VP maybe should have known it too ????

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

We should back away from Israel. We have absolutely no legitimate business with them and they bring nothing to the table.

Israel offers no unique military logistics, as we already have full access to the region via neighboring installations. They offer no substantial business to the U.S. They bring only strained relations with neighboring countries, with whom we have much more lucrative business ties.

It's time to back away from this toxic, one-sided relationship. It's time for Israel to be diplomatic with their neighbors instead of starting wars they want the U.S. to win for them.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 years ago

They offer no substantial business to the U.S.

Israel does offer substantial business to the US and that is surveillance technology.

From Surveillance Policies, Practices and Technologies in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories: Assessing the Security State

A discussion of surveillance within Israel would be incomplete without a confrontation with political economy and the development of security technologies. Neve Gordon (2009) argues that the ‘Israeli experience’, in its various manifestations, has played a pivotal role in the formation of Israel’s homeland security industry and its subsequent transformation into a global success story. The innovations in security and military technologies developed in Israeli laboratories have also facilitated the increased ‘virtual occupation’ of Gaza since the ‘Disengagement Plan’ (Sperotto 2010). Israel’s ‘separation barrier’, widely cited as a violation of Palestinian human rights, is premised on an array of sniper towers, electric fences, trenches, cameras, sensors, patrol roads, ditches, and military patrols (International Court of Justice 2004; B’Tselem 2006; International Federation for Human Rights 2004) – a blend of technological devises and various surveillance techniques developed in Israel.

What these political-economic perspectives on surveillance offer is a ‘made in Israel’ approach to the development of security strategies and methodologies, as well as the construction of a surveillance apparatus that is deployed in Israel, the OPT, and abroad by purchasers of this know-how. The IDF’s recent upgrades to the Gaza fence is noteworthy, considering the interface between the military through the newly-upgraded Combat Collection Corps, the network of intelligence agents working within Gaza, surveillance technologies, and national security policies determined to enforce iron clad borders (Katz 2010). This provides a testing ground of sorts for military strategy, technology, and border policies that could effectively be adapted for use outside of Israel. In 2006, Elbit Systems was awarded a contract, along with Boeing, to build the security wall on the U.S.-Mexican border (World War 4 Report 2006). Because of the international public acclaim that accompanies Israel’s defence industry, Israeli-based firms, as well as foreign companies that contribute to the country’s security apparatus, such as Motorola, Elbit, Boeing and others, have become targets of the transnational boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) campaign (Macdonald 2010; New York Campaign for the Boycott of Israel n.d.; The Council on Ethics 2009; Cattatori 2009; Campaign Against U.S. Terror Weapons n.d.), which constitute the central internationalist non-violent movement against Israel’s illegal military occupation of Palestinian territory and continuous defiance of international law (see Bakan and Abu-Laban 2009).

Israel tests it's surveillance technology on Palestine, then exports that technology to other countries.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

But if something were to happen to Israel, the death cult can't continue to try to kickstart the rapture so we can go to the mcdonald's playplace in the sky.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

They are lying to you about it, they always knew

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 14 points 2 years ago

Any bets on whether this will change anything? I mean yeah, it doesn't seem likely and the prevailing opinion seems to be "fuck no", but I have no idea how informed that opinion is.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

This specifically? Probably not just because Biden only has a few months left. But I think we're going to see a generational change in attitude from future presidents. Israel better get their shit together before that happens.

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[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Who's taking orders from who?

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

So he should pull support from him

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Really, Biden just noticed the lying? No way the president is that obtuse.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Another pictorial example of Bibi shitting hits pants on purpose.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

CIA who probably warned him ages ago

[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In diplomacy it's critical to give your allies enough rope to hang themselves.

Yeah it's the rope that's he's used to kill 40,000 Palestinians I'm more worried about. If that's a price someone is willing to pay for political calculus then they're bad people.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

200,000 according to the Lancet medical journal.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

i hope he has his aides ready to tell him "duh doy" on this realization.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Let Iran bomb the shit out of them a few days before calling for a cease fire.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Why not use Netanyahu as a hostage?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"All you middle-east countries need to work together peacefully, or I will release Netanyahu unharmed."

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