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[-] zout@fedia.io 45 points 1 year ago

They've missed AirBNB and the likes.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago

That is a lower circle of hell.

[-] Rexelpitlum@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 year ago

You might want to look up "Enshitification".

No surprises here...

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

It didn't suddenly go that way. It was always the plan. A loss leader.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Chokepoint capitalism moreso than enshittification. Both are terms from Cory Doctorow.

First new word I learned on lemmy a few months back.

I think of it multiple times a day when browsing my RSS feed

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah to those websites that still publish RSS feeds, though

All the websites I follow do, so I am lucky

But yeah instant +1 if a website offer RSS feeds

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

yeah that's basically what this

[-] hannesh93@feddit.org 35 points 1 year ago

Isn't that how silicon valley worked for years even within itself? Run a loss for long enough until you've overtaken the market and then raise prices when the competition has lost their edge.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what China is trying to do with their EVs in other markets right now too as another example.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago

Turns out making everything into a subscription service doesn't make it better, it just makes it worse.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Surprise we got scammed again.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Cloud was never supposed to be “cheap”. It has always been a utility based model where you pay for how much you use it. The problem is, way too many people used is as a 1:1 replacement without rearchitecting their workloads, so of course it’s gonna be more expensive.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Not just that, but the big value proposition was supposed be that you wouldn't need sysadmins. In practice, these services are so complex that you need a dedicated skill set to use them, except now it's specific skills for each provider that aren't directly transferable.

[-] Laser@feddit.org 6 points 11 months ago

Which means you can sell support in addition to the service itself. Mission accomplished!

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Not to mention the benefits of having vendor lock in, since migrating to a different service becomes prohibitively expensive.

[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

next up: ai is 100x more expensive than people

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 15 points 11 months ago

Well it may not be accurate or effective, but at least it's expensive.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago
[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Uber was always more expensive then a taxi, at least in NYC/London. It was originally marketed as a "luxury" transportation option. The cloud was always ~2x more Operation Expenses with the value proposition that you didn't have any Capital Expenses so if you were a startup it was easier to sell-out and get started with lower risk. Streaming is still cheaper then cable, but it is getting shittier.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Streaming is still cheaper than cable

That really depends on where you live. With my current provider here in the Netherlands, I would be paying 12.50 euros extra for TV.

Netflix standard is already more expensive than that at 13.99.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Wait till the CFOs start tallying up the GenAI bills...

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 9 points 1 year ago

I poem you.

Stremio, Torrentio, Realdebrid, Shieldtv.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

I use Stremio which has tbs torrentio plugin. But what are the others?

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago

Realdebrid serves torrents instantly from torrentio at 3 bucks a month. Nvidia shieldtv Pro is the best media steamer (*in my opinion which is probably worthless). I had Apple TV's running Stremio, but it was a pain in the butt syncing, so I gave those away.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A primary purpose of technology under capitalism is the violent control of people and the planet. Any actual progress is an unwanted side effect.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

I've been adding a bunch of torrent-focused features to both lemmy-ui and jerboa this week, the next releases of both should have them.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Oh that's very exciting!

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

Jellyfin FTW! Free for all.

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago
[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Is there a reasonable explanation for this or is it plain greed? In my book, technology gets always cheaper, but scalability is also always a concern.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

It's just greed. Companies exist to create profit for their shareholders, any social value they produce in the process is strictly incidental.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Clowd was never cheap; it was versatile, and it still is.

Just, please, get over this 'cheap' fallacy. It's expensive as shit, either in direct costs or the labour required to min-max for savings. If you're not regularly bulldozing a massive portion of your stuff or running in two regions for resilience, then you should just look at another idea -- and Don't say Azure, as there's a reason we call that cheap hot-garbage 'unsure'.

[-] doo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

thank you. came to the comments to say exactly this.

cloud could be cheap, but it's a lot of work, or at least attention. people get disappointed with the costs, paradoxically, because cloud is easy and, as you put, versatile. and often between any two options allowing to do the same thing, the easier one will be more expensive.

the biggest irony of the cloud is that many companies it seems, just like different species evolved into crabs, discover that all they need is a couple of own servers in a managed hosting environment, a CDN and outlook.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Indeed.

Cloud is useful for things like flexibility - you need massive dynamic expansion/contraction of resources? Cloud can do it... But at a cost.

Or for a startup - you need resources quickly, but don't want to invest in physical hardware because that's a risky investment if the business doesn't survive. But again, it's not cheap.

Worst of all, each cloud provider has a convoluted system of features, by design, intended to lock you in to their system once you learn it. So you still have staff dedicated to that.

The problem with cloud is much better explained here (I have no idea who this person is, just found their blog to be well written).

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