Just stumbled across this... (dubvee.org)

submitted 3 months ago by ptz@dubvee.org to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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Names blurred to protect the innocent / crazy. Not trying to call anyone out, just thought the response was hilarious and highly disproportionate. Like, they distinguished that comment (green border/background).

For reference, the comment I presume that was downvoted that apparently triggered that response was to the tune of "BoTH SiDEz!!!!" with some hyper generalizing / stereotyping on the side.

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[-] teft@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Talk about reddit brained. Why do downvotes matter to so many people? There is no karma count except for individual comments. You don't know what someone downvotes for so why get worked up over it?

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago

If you don’t like downvotes (like me!) join an instance with disabled downvotes. Simple solution. I don’t know why OOP hasn’t disabled downvotes on their instance.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

If someone indicates they dislike a narcissist's content it shatters their ego.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 months ago

Maybe they downvote without commenting because they get banned when they comment?

Idk the instance, but it's pretty funny calling down voting undemocratic when it's the only means of voting on comments and you effective rigged that election lol

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[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 29 points 3 months ago

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I am of the firm belief after much deliberation and consideration that it actually is awesome that downvotes are public and it makes for a much more responsible voting environment overall. To suffer the problems of bots and agitators is not preferable to this small but meaningful way of encouraging highlighting the opinions of actual human beings more democratically

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 months ago

I'm in that minority too.

Votes impact visibility of content.

Obviously, we should try to move from the up/down system to a more granular one, but for now it seems fair to call out people who abuse the system by systematically downvoting content they disagree with.

If you don't like a community, just block it and move on. If a comment or post breaks the rules, report it.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 10 points 3 months ago

When you wrestle a pig, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. Some people aren't worth arguing with. Down voting because a comment adds nothing to the discussion also often gets mistaken for down voting because you disagree, especially if the person being down voted is a troll just looking for ANY response to feed their need to fight.

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[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Really, how dare we downvote someone on their own server? It's silencing and undemocratic and they have no real arguments and are all American puppets anyway.

This user and those who agree with them are the only reasonable people. In fact, agreeing with them is the only way to be reasonable. \s

[-] zorrothefox2001@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

ITT:

"Downvotes are spam! (12)"

"I think it's a little more nuanced than that (-7)"

[-] Thelemmybud@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Just got banned for calling out a troll

[-] LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 months ago

I'd love to know, as this individual's instance is one I'd love to block, I don't want to run into them in the wilds of Lemmy if it could be helped. They've got to have a lot of weird takes that I simply don't want to see.

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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

Does your post have anything to do with this: https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/353815

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago

No need to block, I know exactly who that is.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

A hypocritical coward.

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[-] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Which instance? Just want to know so I can avoid it.

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can't block an instance, can you? (I mean as a user, not an instance owner.) Except by blocking all communities on said instance, of course.

Edit: Ah. I see it now. In Lemmy-UI, under settings, hit the "blocks" tab and scroll down. Thanks, folks.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 13 points 3 months ago

You can, at least partially.

If your instance is on 0.19.0 or above, you can block instances at the user level. You won't see posts from any community there, but you will see posts from users there to communities on other instances, and you will still see comments from users on that instance.

It basically works as a "block all communities from this instance".

[-] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

You can. I have a couple instances blocked, like that yiff one and the porn one.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I do think it's unfortunate that votes aren't public to non-instance-owners. That'd be a nice thing to change. I might see if I can find any existing tickets on the topic or whatever.

(Sorry, I know it's weird to make two top-level comments on the same post, but this one's sufficiently unrelated to my other one, I figured it made sense.)

[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

What do you mean votes aren't public? I see the up vote / down vote on this comment in fact.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Everyone can see the count of both upvotes and downvotes. But instance owners can also see the usernames of who upvoted and who downvoted a given post/comment. (Probably also the list of all posts/comments a given user has upvoted/downvoted, I think?) And not just users on the same instance. Users from other instances too.

I think I've heard that the usernames of users who upvoted/downvoted things are also public info on Kbin. (Not just to instance owners, but also to regular users.)

[-] inductor@aussie.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Up/Downvotes usernames are publicly visible via the API to everyone. Kbin shows users this, lemmy does not.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Ah. Ok. I might see if I can track down specifically which endpoint that is at some point.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Only upvotes

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago

On stock Kbin, you could see the usernames of whoever downvoted you. But it also only synced downvotes from within its own instance, so you wouldn't see downvotes on your posts if the were from outside instances. I think that may be a server-side setting that Ernest had enabled on Kbin.social, so I think Kbin can be configured for either option.

I believe that technically, the list of users who downvote is public on all instances, but it requires having some means of pulling that data out of the API, as it's usually not displayed in the default web UI.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I've looked around a bit at the API and haven't found it, but I didn't look too exhaustively. I might look again when I get a second.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Mods can to from the back-end but the front-end hasn't caught up yet with the feature: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4392

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Good to know. Looks like that backend change is in Lemmy version 0.19.4 and newer (which is why it didn't work with a {"error":"not_an_admin"} when I ran a test on Lemmy.World which is still on 0.19.3 using a post in a community I'm a mod of). Thanks for pointing me to that PR.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

You are welcome!

[-] Thelemmybud@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This is unprofessional admin behaviour. No one is crazy, it’s ableist to claim anyone is such.

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