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This New Texas Policy Is A ‘Gut Punch’ To Trans People (www.huffpost.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/politics@lemmy.world

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By Lil Kalish

Emily Bray was supposed to be celebrating on Tuesday morning. After years of trying to change her name and gender marker, the 27-year-old YouTuber received an official court order from a Texas judge that she was at last, in the eyes of the state, the woman she had long known herself to be.

But that elation was short-lived.

An hour later, she logged onto the private Facebook group where she and other trans Texans discussed the bureaucracy of changing one’s name and gender in a state that is becoming increasingly hostile to trans people. One person shared that they had gone into the Department of Public Safety to update their driver’s license that day and learned that the agency had issued a new policy, barring the use of court orders or birth certificates to change one’s listed sex.

“There’s no other way to describe it than a gut punch,” Bray told HuffPost.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 69 points 3 months ago

Presenting this as if it's (just) persecution of trans people is actually underselling the problem. The real problem here is that criminal fascist Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton thinks he is entitled to ignore valid court orders and flout the rule of law, and that's a threat to every Texan, trans allies and hateful bigots alike (even if the latter are likely too stupid to realize it).

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 months ago

Building a registry of trans people is pretty frightening as well

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

On one hand, very much yes, especially given the details mentioned in the article:

The internal DPS email also directs employees to send the names and identification numbers of people requesting a change, and to “scan into the record” all documentation about court-ordered sex marker changes to an internal email address with the subject line “Sex Change Court Order.”

It is unclear how this information will be used. But two years ago, the Republican attorney general previously sought data from the DPS about how many Texans had changed the legal sex marker on their licenses.

Paxton has long targeted trans Texans, launching various investigations into hospitals, LGBTQ+ organizations and providers, and has likened gender-affirming care for youth to “child abuse.” At the time of Paxton’s request two years ago, a DPS spokesperson told The Washington Post that the data could not be “accurately produced” and the agency hadn’t sent any to Paxton’s office.

On the other hand, I'm finding it difficult to reconcile the idea of deliberately getting a court order to change your personal information on an official government document and then also wanting the record of that change to be kept secret from the government. It seems to me the problem isn't the government having that information -- which honestly ought to have been trivially available simply as a side effect of properly designing a court records database and not required compiling separately to begin with -- but rather that Texas is failing to remove dangerous abusive bad actors from positions of power.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago

It's not hiding it from the government, it's about not making a list of trans people for the neo Nazis to target. Emailing all pii to a single email address is is asinine.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's "security through obscurity." Court records are public: even in the best-case scenario of completely uncooperative bureaucrats, that list would only be a FOIA request and some clerical grunt work away.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Foia request does not get peoples records. This is Republicans trying to build a list of trans people to do harm.

Information/data that is NOT covered by the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) includes: Non-agency records and personal records.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Okay, so maybe I got that detail wrong. But still, the fundamental purpose of officially changing one's name is for other people to recognize the change and start using it. For that to happen, it makes no sense for it to be a secret. Hell, it's often the case that part of the process is a requirement to publish your name change in an ad in the local newspaper!

To reiterate what I already made crystal clear up front: yes, I understand that it's bad for Republicans to be building a list of trans people to do harm! I'm just not sure it's realistic to think they can practically be prevented from it, if they're motivated enough, by any means short of not changing your name to begin with. (Well, that or the actual solution of removing dangerous hateful transphobes from positions of authority, anyway.)

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

I think the point is that there should be as little remembrance of the change itself. To anyone, even the government, that doesn't need to know it should look like you had that gender all along

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I guess I'm just skeptical of the concept of "as little remembrance" in the digital age, as opposed to considering it a binary choice between "completely forgotten" and "easy to look up."

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 11 points 3 months ago

A lot of MAGAts would gladly shoot themselves in the foot if they were certain the bullet hurts "the libs"

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 4 points 3 months ago

A lot of conservatives are happy to eat shit if they know that you'll just eat more of it

[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

The way I've always heard it is that Conservatives will eat a shit sandwich if it means a Liberal has to smell it.

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago

That's devastating. I can definitely relate to insane legalese and battles against hostile and otherwise kafka-esque legislation. Solidarity to fellow trans folks from the UK.

[-] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I love that they literally took the plot from a King of the Hill episode satirizing government bureaucracy, and decided that would make for great government policy.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lemmy.world copyright restrictions bar posting the full article as text.

Please cut the quote down to the 2-3 most relevant paragraphs or we'll have to remove the post.

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

My apologies, I edited it. Let me know if I need to edit it further

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

That's good! Thanks!

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago

I can't figure out why you would need to go to a department of public safety to update a driver's license.

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Also, Ken Paxton is a piece of shit who will burn in hell if he's right that it exists.

The internal DPS email also directs employees to send the names and identification numbers of people requesting a change, and to “scan into the record” all documentation about court-ordered sex marker changes to an internal email address with the subject line “Sex Change Court Order.”

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

DPS and DMV are the same thing here

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Weird.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

If you think that's weird, I know people who are living here on purpose!!

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