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The super privacy-focused third-party ROM, GrapheneOS now officially supports the Google Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL.

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[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 month ago

that was fast!

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 26 points 1 month ago

well that that was fast...

how long until second hand market becomes viable? Xmas?

[-] cron@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago

It takes a year or so until the second hand market has plenty to offer. But already a few days after the release you can find the first offers.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 month ago

is there any benefit to wait for 9 series second hand market to be competitive over buying 8 today?

[-] cron@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

I have the Pixel 8a. For me, it's really a great phone. As far as I know, the 8a is never going to get the "Gemini AI" software due to limited memory (does not apply to 8/8pro).

Camera, performance, screen etc is mostly similar as I heard.

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's odd, I installed the Gemini app on my 6a like a week ago. Unless you're specifically talking about grapheneOS.

[-] cron@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Whats not aupported is to run gemini nano directly on your phone. The default gemini (in the cloud) works fine.

[-] 474D@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Wait for a black Friday deal. I traded in my 4a previously and upgraded to a 7a for $150

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago

Does it receive all 16GB of RAM or is the 3GB still locked away?

Is Gemini Nano supported?

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago

There isn't a chance in hell you're getting Gemini Nano outside of the stock ROM.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago
[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Because it's proprietary software. They have an open source model (based off it) called Gemma but Gemini Nano is super locked down. There aren't even public APIs for 3rd party developers to use it through the OS yet.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

An enormous portion of Google's products are proprietary and yet still made freely available to anyone.

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

None of those are cutting edge AI models that could be ripped open and examined if people had access to the files. It's not just an app or something, there are internal trade secrets at risk.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

No one is asking for access to the source code.

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

That is basically what you get if you have direct access to the LLM file(s).

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

Then thousands of people already have that on their Pixel 9s and 8s.

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Locked away in the stock ROM. Almost certainly encrypted at rest.

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[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Who knows. We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app and give it NPU permissions.

The exciting bit is that we know you can deny internet access and all the picture AI stuff still works.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

Who knows

Presumably the GOS devs. And anyone who owns a P9x.

We do know that all of the pixel photo features work assuming you install the pixel photo app

Yeah, that's why I ask. Some of this stuff works already. The on-device AI in Gboard is incredible. As is the spam detection in GMessages.

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[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Fuck Gemini. Why would you want that piece of shit on your phone?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

Having recorded and summarized phone calls is a pretty damn useful feature...

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] noxy@yiffit.net 3 points 1 month ago
[-] cron@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago

That's why people here are discussing Gemini nano, which can run locally on your phone and not in the cloud (like the "normal" gemini model)

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

You might be able to get ollama running

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

Ollama doesn't do anything that Gemini Nano does.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Ollama isn't a model. It is a software that allows you to run llms and query them in layer 7

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