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But they love him in the mirror universe. (lemmy.world)
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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 67 points 2 months ago

I recently had a conversation with a relative telling me they could not watch one of the recent Star Treks because they heard it was “woke”.

It’s Star Trek. It is ALWAYS woke. Star Trek (1966) was woke fifty years before “woke” was defined as a thing.

You can’t have Star Trek without “woke” because that’s what Star Trek is.

[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago

Star Wars fan here. Star Trek has always been an incredible example in pop culture of progressive values. They’ve supported love in all its forms, diversity, inclusion, and other “woke” values. They’ve created a world where everyone looks out for each other, protects each other, and includes each other. Star Trek is the future I want to live in. So, to all Star Trek fans, I give you a very enthusiastic “live long and prosper”.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

So, to all Star Trek fans, I give you a very enthusiastic “live long and prosper”.

It's not too late to join us.

"Peace, and long life."

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 19 points 2 months ago

The thing is, you have to be at least slightly media literate to realise that. Old Trek just lived in a world that was comfortable in its wokeness. It never signposted it, it just did the woke thing. At times this was having the first interracial kiss on TV. At others, it was using an alien species where everyone except one member is non-binary as a metaphor (at the time, it was intended as a metaphor for oppression of gay people, but today it reads much more strongly as a trans metaphor). In today's Trek, you have characters directly coming out of the closet as trans; it's much more direct and hard to miss. I saw one person half-jokingly suggest that they started deliberately doing this stuff specifically to drum up controversy to get people talking about their shows.

And let's be honest, the kind of people who would complain about wokeness as though it's a bad thing are not exactly the most media literate. These are the people who saw Fight Club and thought the protagonists were heroes, or who idolised Rick in Rick & Morty.

[-] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Also, woke isn't a negative term. The right made it a negative term by applying it to anything they disagree with.

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I mean TOS had black people who could work on the bridge and be engineers, not to mention a whole episode on how black/white people are the same as white/black people, what kind of shameless woke debauchery is this smh

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

It doesn’t get more blatant than a society divided by whether or not the left half of their faces are black or white. And having their conflict resolved by the end.

And so many actors from the original Roots, including both Lavar Burton and The Sisko, were in Star Trek.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

Its literally a post-scarcity socialist utopia on Earth

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well, it was. For a glorious forty years or so.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

Hey man the burn was just a temporary setback

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Woke has been part of African American Vernacular English since the 1930s.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They're talking about the modern definition that conservatives only recently became infuriated with.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 2 months ago

The future Elon wants is not a post-scarcity society. Elon's future is about artificial scarcity.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Specifically, an artificial scarcity HE profits from

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

A ferengi without profit is no ferengi at all. (Rule of acquisition #18)

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 11 points 2 months ago

Why is rich people always interpret their favorite show wrong lol are they stupid

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

He won't and he can't. Elon Musk is like Trump on that he lies, a LOT, mostly all the time about just about everything that he claims that he does, did, and will do.

It's the same posturing as having a mars base by, what was it, 2020? 2022?

He still hasn't been able to leave orbit, SpaceX still hasn't been able to replicate what NASA did back in the 60's, yet here we are acting like they're performing miracles.

I'm sure that there are smart engineers at SpaceX that want and try better but SpaceX, as it stands, rujs onntax payer money and boy have they wasted a LOT of it to get just done what is considered basic rocket technology. SpaceX will not put a (wo)man on mars within the next decade, or more likely two or three, if ever.

Elon all the time comes with some ridiculous idea and then people jump on it as if it's amaaaaazing even though highschoolers should be able to identify that his ideas are fundamentally stupid or plain impossible, yet people keep acting as if he's a genius. HE WAS FIRED FOR INCOMPETENCE BEFORE dammit. That should have been a red flag.

Stop listening to this scammer, and just wait for him to kill twitter, he's been working hard on piledriving it off a cliff.

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This is off topic but

(wo)man

Human is two less characters, and on the phone, way easier to type. Why choose to write it like that?

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