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[-] Linktank@lemmy.today 32 points 2 months ago
[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago

I like to play my games knowing the developers optimized it for exactly the hardware I'm playing on.

[-] Linktank@lemmy.today 19 points 2 months ago

I like to play my games on hardware that I picked out and put together personally. Also I like that hardware to be using an OS of my choosing with as much expandable storage as I could possibly want. Also, I don't like to give my money to companies that encourage exclusivity on their hardware.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, if you enjoy the process of fiddling around with your system and installing cool new drivers and programs to get your game running then PC gaming is better no doubt.

I just want to turn the game on and play though

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

But once you get it working, it works. It's not as hard as you imagine, got a working Linux gaming setup in less than an hour after building my PC, and with software like EndeavourOS and Proton, you can get yours setup in such a short amount of time it'd blow your mind.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

It works, and then you don't enjoy the game so it was all for nothing, or they release a patch that changes something so you have to do it all over again. And then you have that to look forward to with every new game you want to try out.

I follow a lot of PC gamers on social media and they're always crowd-sourcing technical questions about why this or that isn't working like they expect.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 2 months ago

I have no idea what you just said.

Most games you just click play and they work. You don't need to install drivers or programs or whatever you think everytime at all.

If they release a dodgy patch or one you don't like, you can just revert it. On console you are stuck with whatever they give you.

Don't like a game after a couple hours? Doesn't work correctly? Refund it.

Mainly its linux that will have issues you have to navigate and that is probably where most of the technical questions you come across root from. If you have Windows then 99% of games will just work as you expect.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 2 months ago
  • Batman: Arkham Knight

  • Assassin's Creed Unity

  • Battlefield 4

  • Homefront: The Revolution:

  • Forza Horizon 3

  • Total War: Rome 2

All high profile games, all had my social media feeds full of PC gamers complaining about how they ran like shit on their 4,000 dollar PCs.

You say you don't know what I'm talking about, but then list every single hoop I'm trying to avoid with the tagline of 'just jump through them!'.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

I've only played two of them and they worked just the same as any other game. You are putting words into my mouth now, I refuted every 'hoop' you listed, I never said 'just deal with it'.

I could build a pc, give it to anyone and it would work in the same vein as a console. What is the point you are trying to make? That PCs have loads of issues? The consoles are flawless? Make sense.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

These dingleberries aren't going to get it....Im the one true gamer master race, I play everything on all consoles and PC, phone, handheld etc... PC is fun and there are games you need a mouse and keyboard to play ...but I also just want to turn on my Xbox sometimes, and sit on the couch and not have to open Bluetooth to connect a controller, or make sure steam and the GPU and the games are up to date.

If you notice the operating system then it's not doing a good job of being an operating system.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Right, hate it when my gaming PC gives me depression lol.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

you just need to do that once

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[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Both major consoles literally have multiple versions with differing performance lmfao

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

As opposed to PC which has infinite variations

[-] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Typically they still have performance issues though? I haven't played on consoles since Xbox 360, other than the odd Nintendo game. I spent thousands of dollars on 360 and PS3 games and hardware and have none of it now. But my entire PC library is still playable.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

This is why pirating what you already owned should be morally correct :)

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[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’m with ya. When it’s gaming time, I just want it to work. I don’t want to be fiddling with settings constantly.

That being said, I do prefer RPGs and RTSs much more with a keyboard and mouse, so I’ll usually play those on my computer, but that’s not such a problem any more with keyboard and mouse being supported by consoles.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Totally, mouse and keyboard are very clutch for those genres

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What even is the point, though? The number of games made specifically for the PS5 can be counted on 1 hand and it's not like those have significant performance issues that warrant even more powerful hardware.

Do any of these bigger numbers mean one would at least be able to play an existing game in 4k with ray tracing at higher than 30fps?

[-] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago
[-] noxy@yiffit.net 21 points 2 months ago
[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago

Only to be played for business purposes!

[-] cloudless@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 months ago

Can it time travel using its negative clock speed?

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't see no fucking disc drive here, bucko.

[-] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 months ago

You will own nothing and you will be happy

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 months ago

You can get one is my understanding but this sentiment aint wrong either. this is the transition stage.

[-] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

The current Slim PS5 also doesn’t have a disc drive, you can just buy it in a bundle and attach the optional one.

Honestly for manufacturing this makes way more sense, to ship one SKU and then make them all upgradable to disc. It’s also kind of nice that if you buy a digital one and want disc in the future you can just buy the drive.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

This makes me realize, is there a limit on read speeds of disk vs. NVMe?

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[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 13 points 2 months ago

Does it have enough games yet?

[-] warm@kbin.earth 13 points 2 months ago

What's the point of consoles getting more powerful? Shouldn't affordability be the main target at this point?

Their main target audience is couch gaming on TVs, which are usually only 60Hz, something the PS5 and XSX can do comfortably.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago

Consoles need to be more powerful because of the perceived importance that marketing has created for gamers desperate need for graphical fidelity over all else.

The gameplay of COD and FIFA doesn't matter so long as it's sharper/more crisp/more real. Granted, this mindset has somewhat faded, however it is still present and as a result corporations are still pushing it because while 60hz may be an old standard, Sony now has 120hz TV's to sell you.

In addition to that, COD and FIFA don't have to be nearly as well optimized if the consoles can just brute force through it. Also, without newer consoles that are more powerful, there then won't be games that are too powerful to run on older consoles, meaning they won't get to sell you new consoles because of the old games you want to play. Instead they can sell you the new games that only work on the new consoles.

I'm sure there are more reasons, but those seem to be the 3 core facets that make up the purpose of console gaming; sell the lie of the best graphical fidelity, make a game that requires a high powered console to play it, market it as "needing the best of the best" to be able to play it, and suddenly you have a brand loyal set of consumers who keep returning to the fishhook.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Enter Nintendo. Crappy 9yo SOC, sure, whatever, here are some fun games that aren’t graphically advanced.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

The console wars have always been between Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo does the innovation side of things

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

If by always you mean the last 15-20 years, plenty more warring from the likes of Nintendo and Sega before then!

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

Console fidelity wars, from my understanding when I was growing up the improvements in graphics were appreciated but not the sole aspect of whether a game was good, like the way 2005-2025 (and somewhat into 2025 but significantly less so) did

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Nah, it was Coleco/Atari - Coleco lost

Then Nintendo/Atari - Atari lost

Then Sega/Nintendo

Then Sega/Nintendo/Sony - Sega lost

Then Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft - Nintendo lost, but pivoted to play a different game.

Then you can throw things in there like 3DO and Jaguar Turbo FX, but they didn’t do so got to be considered contenders in the “war”

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[-] subignition@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Amusing that aside from the GPU TFLOPS the rest of it is a slight improvement if at all

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago

Looks like the biggest improvement is the addition of the ray tracing cores?

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

But both ps5 and Xbox had rt core, no?, what I understood is that the normal cores are RDNA3 and the RT cores RDNA4, ps5 no-pro has everything (including the RT cores) RDNA2

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah your probably correct - but just wanted to denote the inclusion of the "RDNA4 RT"

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Like, how are they teasing it? Light petting? Double-entendres? Flicking its eject button?

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

New one will be a meter tall and run on gasoline.

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[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Is it going to be the size of a small fridge like the base model?

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

The PS5, while bigger than last entries, is hardly the size of a small fridge.

More like a floor air conditioner.

[-] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

My money's on bigger

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

To play PS4 games in enhanced mode!

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