Pro-Palestinian Uncommitted Movement refuses to endorse Harris : usa

[-] BigLime@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

Could it be because she said, 'Israel has a right to defend itself'? Using the language of an apartheid state and genocide defender. I've read her books, she's a classic example of someone who wants to appear progressive, while trying to stay within the boundaries of the establishment.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

When she first became the candidate, I listened to a podcast covering her entire career. The sad thing is that she used to stand for progressive principles, even when it was politically dangerous to do so. Over time, though, she's become more and more conservative. For example, she used to be against the death penalty; now she's for it.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Pffft, "Uncommitted"? Try "Abandoned". The democrat party has lost my support for as long as the democrat party continues to exist; because they are irreparably tied to genocide. Collaborators, comforters, aides, and abettors; one and all.

[-] banshee@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

From NPR's article:

"At this time, our movement 1) cannot endorse > Vice President Harris; 2) opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing; and 3) is not recommending a third-party vote in the Presidential election, especially as third party votes in key swing states could help inadvertently deliver a Trump presidency given our country’s broken electoral college system,"

I'm glad to see they're not advocating for Trump or a third-party candidate that would help him win the election.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

or a third-party candidate that would help him win the election.

Y'all still beating the 'wah spoilers' dead horse, huh? When will you settlers understand that anyone not voting for your genocider is a failing of the policies the candidate-murderer espouses, not the voter themselves?

~~Rhetorical question. You never will; because it allows you to maintain your aggrieved victimhood while simultaneously sating your genocidal nature.~~

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -2 points 12 hours ago

opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing;

No they fucking don't. They're sitting on their fucking hands.

[-] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm confused by your statement. As far as I know, Trump has advocated for escalating violence in Gaza and everywhere else.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 48 minutes ago

Do you have a quote? The only thing I've heard Trump say about it is A) the Oct. 7 attack wouldn't have happened if he were president (lol) and B) he would tell Netanyahu to "end it". He refuses to elaborate.

Whether Harris or Trump is president, it won't matter for the situation in Gaza.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They’re sitting on their fucking hands.

The only just answer when the only options presented are both for genocide. History will know who collaborated by whose metadata is tied to the ballots-- and trust, with how many data breaches have happened up til now? People will find out who, when, and where; to a granular level.

Honestly? I think when that day comes, the principled should put up a site the same way Kyiv and Tel Aviv did, lists with names, faces, SSNs, and 'last known location' data for every single Amerikan collaborator in genocide from say, I dunno... 2012 to present day? Wonder how much would change if naming and shaming were possible.

[-] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

This should be expected.

Why would a pro-palestine group endorse a candidate who is pro-Genocide of the Palestinians?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 hour ago

Because in a binary decision between bad and worse, there is still a preference. And when abstaining has historically favored the worse choice, doing nothing is bad.

[+] philo@lemmy.ca -8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

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[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 hours ago

I have no sympathy for you or anyone that doesn’t vote Democrat in this election.

Funny! I have no sympathy for white supremacists like you and the rest of your party.

[-] moe93@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 hours ago

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 hour ago

No one is saying Harris is perfect. We don't vote for perfect: we vote for better. Do you need a primer on evolution?

This both-sides/but-her-emails[sic] nonsense only resembles the Russian bot themes accidentally, right?

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Did you just [sic] your own comment? Who are you quoting?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Does the democratic party hold no responsibility here in your eyes? It's obvious democrats understand the flaws of First past the post voting, longer then ive been alive!

So why hasn't the states they control switched to a voting system like Ranked Choice voting where there is no spoiler effect?

You don't get to harp on people voting outside the two party system and then do nothing to resolve the issues you bring up.

[+] philo@lemmy.ca -6 points 20 hours ago

Not for anything Trump did. Why would they?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago

Trump isn't doing a genocide, the democrats are.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 hours ago

Guess you are one of the many people unable to understand the difference between the democratic party and a sovereign nation.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

The only reason that Israel is able to conduct this genocide is because it's getting material and political support from the democratic party. The US has shipped billions in weapons to Israel to conduct the genocide and has repeatedly blocked resolutions at the UN aimed at ending the genocide.

The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this basic fact shows that you're a deeply dishonest individual whose opinions can be safely ignored. People like you are directly responsible for enabling this genocide. The blood is on your hands.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 hours ago

Is Israel a sovereign nation?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

Whether Israel is a sovereign nation or not has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. I'm sure that even you understand this. Perhaps address what's being said to you instead of just regurgitating the talking point you've memorized.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 hours ago

Point is that Israel is a sovereign nation and the democratic party isn't.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Last I checked the democratic party is the party in charge of the US, a sovereign nation that is actively participating in the genocide. What does Israel being a sovereign nation have to do with any of that? You do understand how two sovereign nations can commit an atrocity together yes?

[-] philo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

Incorrect, do you need a geography lesson? Where is this genocide? The US is in the west hemisphere of the Earth between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans bordered on the south by Mexico and the north by Canada. Is this democratic party genocide within the borders of the continental US? If not, you are dreaming or under the influence of some charlatan who is feeding you nonsense.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

The fact that you think you've made a coherent argument is hilarious.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago

It's not an argument because your nonsense doesn't merit one. it does show the sad state of the state of education in the US.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

So Kamala Harris endorsed Trump for them?

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

It would seem so!

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Based. Imagine voting for Genocide.

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