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[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 131 points 1 month ago

But they'll still vote Republican

[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago

To "own the libs" whatever that means.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago

They get to die horribly just like us!!

hatred of everything and themselves intensifies

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I'm increasingly convinced they mean it literally, in the classical sense.

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Well, a lot of them do fly the flag of slavery.

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

To "own the libs" whatever that means.

Who remembers when Gavin McInnes, at the time the leader of the Proud Boys, put a butt plug in his rectum "to own the libs"?

I remember:

For all their hatred of marginalized groups and especially in consideration of all the vicious transphobic and homophobic attacks by its founder, Gavin McInnes, I’m still trying to figure out how he so readily, and more importantly – easily slid a big black dildo up his own a**, live on his internet talk show? McInnes deemed the moment as “owning the libs.”

See Gavin’s uncensored homo-erotic madness here.

[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I swear conservatives have gone full moron at this point.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 1 month ago

Nobody votes against their own interests like fascists.

[-] kubica@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Well that is because they are not going to be treated like other people. They are going to have an special identification that will prevent them being treated just like the rest. /s

[-] iamericandre@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

Let me die in an emergency room with a treatable disease, like an American.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

The problem is many Republicans believe the exact opposite. The moment you bring up any form of socialized healthcare they will start rattling off stories of people in Europe having to go to a different country to get treatment. Many citizens of the USA have been conditioned to believe that paying for health insurance gives them priority care compared to an uninsured person and if everyone was the same then they'd lose that priority status. They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they'll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Also, countries with socialized healthcare usually also have private health care. But since they have to compete with the public option their prizes are fairly reasonable.

And that's not socialism, it's capitalism.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You see it the wrong way.

Because there's a private option, some procedures are either not available or drastically down-prioritized in a public-private system. Shoulders, knees, foot ops to promote proper mobility get a "well let's wait a bit .... or you can go private?". And the best docs go private to maximize the filthy lucre, so sometimes I worry it's gonna be Dr Nick I get. it never happens, but it only has to happen once for the GoP to be right.

Because there's a private option, the number of docs in the public system go down. And wait-lists go up. I know we're doing ... okay ... but I imagine how much better it could be if doctors were all in the same pool to burn down the queue.

There's public health, and then there's the cancerous taint of mercenary fucking doctors and their macabre lobbyists. It just matters how fucking corrupted a given system is on a scale from Antarctica to America.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

In reality: We pay extra for ourselves and our doctors to wade through a parade of forms that insurance companies will use to deny care for mostly technical reasons.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they’ll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.

All of the evidence points to the opposite!

The examples they love to give are lies or systems after being defunded by conservatives.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Oh, trust me, everyone that support universal healthcare is very much aware that the US ranks quite poorly when it comes to preventable mortality rates in hospitals. The insurance and medical lobbies have used the bullshit wait times disinformation/propaganda for decades and those against universal healthcare love to bring that up as some sort of reliable defense.

The other thing they consistently use to defend the current system is it would raise taxes to overwhelmingly burdensome rates. They of course ignore the insane monthly premiums that families have to pay already, not to mention the amount of taxes we already pay for Medicaid/Medicare. We get to pay twice! What a benefit.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Currently Canada pays no premium and no user-fees for stuff that's covered. Like, my auntie is in for a drastic illness and a series of procedures and she worries only about paid parking. I walked in for a series of tests a few months ago and brought only my ID.

Our system is eroding fast (thanks, Danielle!) but it's still amazing for its services and cost.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

systems after being defunded by conservatives

Like in France, where Macron spent millions to fucking McKinsey for their asshole consultants to "optimize" our healthcare system. Said assholes did what they do best: cut costs and staff.

Now our hospitals are in shambles, workers are at the rope's end and they keep on cutting their budget year after year. But it's all good, we voted for the left so that they turn things around! Oh wait...

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

They think that if everyone can get healthcare then they'll die in a waiting room, and there is no evidence to support that our hospitals will not be able to keep up.

The only time our hospitals weren't able to keep up is when conservatives refused to wear a mask during a global pandemic.

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[-] odigo2020@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

30 Rock, applicable as always. That reminds me, it's getting on time for my 50th rewatch haha.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 month ago

Did I miss something? What Republican plan? I've always heard that it's Two Weeks™ away from being released.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

The concepts of a plan like a vauge idea to scrap all the good parts and replace them with nothing. Vance has talked about removing pre-existing condition protections for instance

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Oh it’s dying of cancer your job gave you because chemo got you fired so now you can’t afford it even if you get a new job because it’s a pre existing condition

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Project 2025. But when only the Nazi freaks liked it the Republicans have had to backtrack and pretend like that was never the plan.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

They have no ideas other than ending things.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Well they need to get the idea to end the Republican party

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago
[-] dumples@midwest.social 25 points 1 month ago

The Affordable Care Act was based on the conservative plan for healthcare as a compromise. So they don't have anything. A real progressive plan would be single payer

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

This. Also it passed without Republican support so a few shitty Dems are really to blame for what we got. And Kamala isn't going to go after it either. I know quite a few people who vote R for gun rights but want single payer healthcare. Both parties are very different, they suck in different ways and represent moneyed interests, not the people.

[-] dumples@midwest.social 5 points 4 weeks ago

Mostly Joe Lieberman if I remember correctly made it his mission to remove a single payer option. It's hard to change the status quo and I think raising the minimum wage and making single payer health care will do a lot to build to help America and would be a winning Democratic strategy. I doubt it will happen but a man can dream.

Also I can't with single issue voters around gun rights.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Republican voters like none of their policies except for the racism and bigotry. But sadly that seems to be enough for them

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago

Given that immigration is the big Republican issue, yeah.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

And now you know why

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

They will still vote R because mass deportation of colored people sounds better than republican voters getting healthcare

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Fucking idiots will step on your foot and shoot a hole in their own foot just to shoot you.

[-] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 month ago

They have a concept of a plan

[-] TehWorld@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Won’t change any votes so everyone who is a reasonable human needs to vote blue.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

For a long time now Republicans will come up with decent solutions but are unwilling to commit to them because they would no longer have the grievances they need to drive their voters.

The Democratic party picks these ideas up and then passes them as law. This has caused the Republican party to become increasingly desperate for new grievances hence the whole trans thing.

To put it another way the Democratic party became conservative in their policies and the Republicans went batshit crazy because of it.

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