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Signal Piracy group (signal.group)

I saw some threads here about Telegram and piracy stuff being banned. So, as an experimental alternative, I created a public Signal group for piracy.

Maybe it'll be useful?

Before joining

Signal supports usernames and hiding telephone numbers. Here's a blog entry on how to do so. You might want to:

  • set a username
  • change your profile name (these are two separate things!)
  • hide your phone number
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[-] Untold1707@lemm.ee 87 points 1 month ago

You might try a Matrix group instead. Doesn’t require a phone number and supports more than 1000 users unlike Signal. Search is bad though unfortunately.

[-] amaki@jlai.lu 7 points 1 month ago

Why not use SimpleX Chat? If you use Matrix for that you will likely get reported and get banned

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 1 month ago

Go ahead and create the group then make a post. Nobody's holding you back my friend.

[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Some suggest matrix, others simplex. Not sure which one would be better honestly

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[-] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 month ago

What is even the point of "piracy groups"? What exactly can you find there that you cannot in other places designed for that, e.g., trackers, usenet, forums...?

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[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

Good idea overall, unfortunately they still have your IP and phone number which means Europeans are still implicated

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 54 points 1 month ago

Signal doesn't collect IPs and therefore can't even hand them out. It's been requested in 2021. Here's a list of requests from authorities they were allowed to publish. I've looked through 3 of the most recent and nowhere do they reveal IPs.

[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Sure they don't log the IPs, but it is technically impossible to not know the IP when you're running a centralized service.

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 1 month ago

What are the "popular" alternatives? Telegram stores everything, WhatsApp doesn't allow usernames, Matrix requires IPs too...

[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

TBH I would just use email over TOR and encrypt communication with PGP. Rotate identities every now and then and you should be fine. Yes it doesn't have forward secrecy but it removes the effort to find the "right messaging" service and is instead ubiquitous (and you can sign up for anonymous email addresses online too, which makes it even better).

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[-] uiiiq@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

The phone number is not connected to the messages. That’s the only thing they have. It is the best app for privacy.

[-] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Arguable in it being "the best app for privacy". Can you link to a source which shows that phone numbers are not linked to accounts? (Why do they need them anyway?)

[-] uiiiq@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

They have published requests from the law enforcement and their responses to these requests. The only unencrypted data they have is the phone number, a date of sign up and a date of the last login. That is it, everything else is encrypted and they cannot access it whatsoever.

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[-] geography082@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago
[-] cyclicircuit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Is there a simplex group we can join?

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[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Will a simplex group better? Nothing identifiable.

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Make it and share it. I don't have simplex.

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[-] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago

Tracker Control is blocking me from joining. Weird that Molly (its a hardened signal fork) is showing amazon is being contacted when trying to join the group.

I can unblock it but its weird. I also noticed the other domains its been trying to (unsuccessfully) contact.

[-] powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago
[-] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago

Only for groups? Why thing else has worked fine for the 9months I've had signal.

[-] Unmapped@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I think signal servers may be using aws hosting.

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Signal uses Amazon's servers, look it up. It's all encrypted of course.

[-] ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, let's talk piracy behind some stupid walled garden. As if public conversations are not fragmented enough as it is

[-] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Signal is a walled garden?

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[-] hurtn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks for doing this

[-] lemmus@szmer.info 4 points 1 month ago

The problem is Signal supports up to 1000 people group chat, so it's better to find something different

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

I can barely handle chat groups with 100 ppl.

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[-] electricprism@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I thought signing up for Signal required a phone number and phone app -- and all phones have IMEI besides many other nightmare anti-features.

For the normies it's fine but tbh I'm not sure it's as advertised.

What ever happened to that odd old app called tox?

Honestly I could see a version of DeltaChat + GPG make some gains in popularity but I would argue the email relay servers and spam lists are rigged for max surveillance.

Are we at the point where tech from 20 years ago may be the way lmao.

XMPP, IRC, ICQ /s

Matrix is probably the best bet but some of their apps and clients seem like dogshit. And I am saying that as someone who uses them daily. And the whole "server" thing is a PITA, or it used to be at least.

I guess we'll just have to use carrier pidgin and cypherto encrypt the cat gifs /s

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