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A driver ran into a ghost bike memorial, and it’s a sad and awful metaphor (cyclingmagazine.ca)

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This happened last year, but it's a reminder that "stray bullets" (i.e. moving vehicles) are still a danger to everyone.

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[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

that "stray bullets" (i.e. moving vehicles) are still a danger to everyone.

I don't like this expression.

Bullets have relatively low force, that's why kevlar vests are so effective; the stop penetration and spread the force out. Pretty much the only thing you can do when mis-massed against a car is deflection angles; which relies at least partly on the car's design.
Bullets ~~are always~~ should only be fired with intent to kill something. A stray bullet still meets its primordial purpose of killing someone; just not the intended target. The intent of a car is to transport, the fact that it is the primary killer of people aged 1-54 is a perversion of its own intent and a disgrace to transport.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Bullets are always should only be fired with intent to kill something. A stray bullet still meets its primordial purpose of killing someone; just not the intended target. The intent of a car is to transport, the fact that it is the primary killer of people aged 1-54 is a perversion of its own intent and a disgrace to transport.

Touché.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

True headline should be: "Traffic light that had a bike chained to it in middle of street"

Look, I'm on board with the "fuck cars" movement, but this is a shit article and a shit clickbait headline. No info here other than some random-ass tweet claiming there had been an accident.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago

No info here other than some random-ass tweet claiming there had been an accident.

I'm assuming you read the article, but it doesn't appear that you did.

Ghost bikes are put up as a reminder of the loss of life in that specific area. Most normal people would see a Ghost Bike and kind of get this slap to the brain to drive like people lives are at stake. The fact that someone in a car crashed into that reminder is the whole irony of the story.

[-] ikilledlaurapalmer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, the ghost bikes in my area usually partially block the sidewalk and/or impede maintenance of the infrastructure that is there, making it less safe for everyone. Wish they would stop or find another way.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

We can start by not killing cyclists. No dead cyclists = no ghost bikes.

[-] buckenmuck@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

yeah, im sure the lamppost got up and walked into the road

[+] mrbubblesort@kbin.social -7 points 1 year ago

Planned maintenance? Wind or extreme weather? Random act of god? The only thing we got is a December 2022 tweet from a guy called "Bike Lane Uprising" with a picture of a pole in the road.

[-] buckenmuck@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

it appears the wind also carefully scattered car debris around the stump of the lamp post in the second photo contained in that tweet. i guess it was covering its tracks, trying to throw us off its scent.

but if u, like, need SUPER EVIDENCE PROOF to believe that, uh, cars are dangerous and run into things in the same place all the goddam time, here you go

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for proving my point. If the video was that easy to find, why wasn't it included in the article? Read my comments, I'm not arguing the incident, I'm arguing against shitty clickbait.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Now you say:

Read my comments, I’m not arguing the incident, I’m arguing against shitty clickbait.

Earlier you said (emphasis yours):

No info here other than some random-ass tweet claiming there had been an accident.

You can do better than this.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, exactly, provide proof or it's just a claim. That's it. We're circlejerking over a shitty clickbait article based off a tweet that provides no additional information. We can do better than this.

[-] buckenmuck@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

i... i'm not circlejerking over anything. the same thing happened in my city to the ghost bike of a good good man. this shit is very sad and extremely sucks.

look i'm sorry that Canadian Cycling Magazine doesn't meet your journalistic standards or whatever, but "this is clickbait" is a very weird reaction to this article. sometimes the tweet is all the information there is and publishing it elsewhere helps inform people who are not on twitter--of whom i am one, and was one back in december, 2022 when the op's article was published.

at this point, i think you're actually mad about something else. i don't know what that is, but a normal reaction to someone taking the time to answer you questions about veracity is, "oh, thanks" and not... whatever this is.

(ps: it's interesting to me that you called BLU "a guy." it feels kind of like calling the ACLU "a guy.")

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

When this happened it was all over Chicago biking twitter. If I recall correctly there eventually emerged a video of the driver running a red light and plowing through the pedestrian island into the pole. If someone was on the pedestrian island at the time they would’ve been killed. This crosswalk has been extremely dangerous for years and there’s been lots of protests and action to try to get the city to fix it.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Well this is just an article about one. Where I live, many ghost bikes have been hit, memorials repaired or thrown away due to damage.

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